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Sir James A:

--- Quote from: Sir Edward on 2011-01-13, 18:40:55 ---Thanks for chiming in. I'm inches away from de-friending him, I think. This isn't the first time he's argued vehemently with myself and my friends. The last time (and I don't even remember the topic at the moment), even after we carefully and methodically countered every single point he made, he still had to get the last word, and it carried a heavy tone of "well, I'm right and you're wrong, no matter what".

This time around it feels like he's on a mission to tear down anyone who is interested in knights and chivalry, as if we're all deluded and think that heraldry and armor make us better than everyone else.

I wonder if he's had a bad experience with some SCA knights or something. I know some of those guys span the spectrum. Some are awesomely chivalrous. Others are a tad arrogant.

Anyway, you can't have a civil discussion with people who behave that way.


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I gave it one last effort, my brain is about shot for the day since he countered my responses to his "facts" with basically "i have a degree, you don't", and I don't think there's much we can discuss if the only thing he's going to use for his position is his opinions and feelings ... there's no argument to that because everyone is entitled to their own, of course. :o

After a bit, I thought his name sounded somewhat familiar, and now I know why: http://www.partsandtechnical.com/bio.html

I spoke with him back in August '08 in regards to turning my sheets of 16 gauge stainless into armor. He was very polite in the email, though looking at it there's a couple things that make me think you may be onto something with the SCA knights. I never did get to meet him due to schedule conflicts and being over an hour away with no way to transport the steel. There's a few things that lead me to think there is some religious logistics for his stance, and arguing about religion is a often lose/lose situation for everyone.

He's certainly not acting the way I'd expect someone with a degree in history and interest in medieval times to act.

Sir Brian:
 ???

I feel like I just walked into a dollar discussion and finding only a quarter in my pocket!

What did I miss?

Sir James A:

--- Quote from: Sir Brian on 2011-01-14, 02:50:36 --- ???

I feel like I just walked into a dollar discussion and finding only a quarter in my pocket!

What did I miss?

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Have a look at Sir Edward's facebook page. There's a 60ish comment "thread" there from the quote. The tail end was chapters in reply to chapters between Andrew and I, so I responded via PM on FB to him so that we would stop cluttering Sir Edward's wall and the storm will hopefully settle.

Turns out Andrew has quite the list of credentials, and I am hoping it's just some sort of "phase" that he is in where he is trying to drag down anyone under the banner of chivalry or knighthood; ironically, that would be exactly the point of the quote Sir Edward posted. Maybe I can get him in better spirits; I'm giving it a shot as best as I can, but I have much more passion than I do profession in the field, so hopefully I can still do something....

Sir Wolf:
i wasn't gonna step in that hornets nest hehehe. some people like to live up to ideals, others do not. its all life and everyone has the right to choose what they want to do hehhe

Sir Edward:

Yeah, I just defriended him last night after waiting to see a few more of his comments. I don't think it ever occurred to him that bashing my friends and I on one of my own postings was a little over the top or perhaps unwelcome. I think some of the younger guys (our own Sir Nathan, and also Joshua) handled themselves quite well.

I want to call this guy a troll, but I think a real troll will just say whatever it takes to drag a reaction out of people. I think he genuinely feels the way he says he does. But while accusing us all of taking ourselves too seriously, it really was all about him. About how silly he thinks knighthood and chivalry are. And when he finally started to calm down, he was still going on about how he doesn't have the time to pretend with us.

Since he has a history of using my posts as his personal soapbox, and doesn't seem to respect me or my friends on there, I figured it was time to just quietly drop him.

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