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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #195 on: 2010-11-22, 21:43:33 »
And some good answers to my question as well!

I can certainly see an upside to having a decentralized group, especially for those in isolated areas, or unable to find a critical mass to start their own local group. Like I mentioned in my initial post, the whole thing is similar to what I've seen/heard about the Fiat Lux starting up. Feel free to pick my brain for any questions you guys have!

I'd love to hear about the founding of the Fiat Lux as well. I've been curious about that actually. It's probably a little easier to find folks that are interested in swords, armor, and knights now that relatively inexpensive armor is readily available. The story was very different a decade ago, for example.
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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #196 on: 2010-11-22, 21:46:16 »
A decade ago...that seems so long ago when you read it like that...but I can remember it like it was yesterday...though, I couldn't tell you what I had for breakfast last Saturday.  lol
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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #197 on: 2010-11-23, 04:44:53 »
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In what may be a rather controvercial question (and if it rocks the boat too much, let me know!), what prevented you (as in any members!) from joining one of the existing chivalric organizations? I only ask out of curiosity - it's exciting to see a new group come up!

Distance has been the biggest hurdle for me.  Aside from the SCA, there just aren't many groups where I live.  I have no beef with the SCA by any means, I'm just not cut out for creating a personna and all that.  I've come across other orders online, but as there was really no way to get involved on a face-to-face basis, I figured why bother.  While distance may still be an issue with our new order, being around at its conception has given me a much greater sense of belonging.  Like Sir Gerard de Rhodes said earlier, this is a great forum and it seems like a natural next step to join its new order.  

EDIT:  Can you guys believe how far we have come in just 21 days?
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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #198 on: 2010-11-23, 13:58:22 »
Matt, I like the COA.
and I'm going to echo many of the reasons given here for not joining an already existing group. Location, not wanting to get involved in group politics, and an order really based on chivalry and moral character, as they are supposed to be. Also, as I am the only armour guy in my town (but I'm doing my best to infect other locals  ;D) this is probably the best way to connect IRL with people of the same interest. This is also the best for my schedule, as I am in high school and participate in various sports/clubs/whathaveyou my schedule is strange and exotic, and I feel that this would be a much more accepting and understanding group as far as thats concerned. 
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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #199 on: 2010-11-23, 15:22:52 »

Since we brought up personas, I think it's worth asking another question about how we want to handle the membership roster. If you look at the Roll of Arms over on the Selohaar site, they use their full real names. I know some people are cautious about using their full names online, as a privacy or security issue. Of course, facebook has turned that on its head, since nearly everyone uses their real name there.

Anyway, how do people feel about their names on our roster or roll of arms? So far I just put "Sir <firstname>" on there for the time being for most folks, or used their forum identity instead. But this will quickly become confusing once we have multiple people with the same first name. Do people want to stick to their forum names or would they be OK with using their real names? Or use their real first name with a fictional but historical last name? Or something else entirely? I'm OK with it being different for each person based on what they prefer. I'd just like to hear thoughts on this.
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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #200 on: 2010-11-23, 15:32:46 »
I think, for the Order, I would be fine with using my real name as it is a real Order and we're uh, doing this for real.  LOL

As you know, I don't care much for my own first name but I doubt there'd be another one so...let's do it.  Or like you said, first real name, fictional last name...whatever the consensus is, I'll go along with.
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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #201 on: 2010-11-23, 16:18:33 »
I'm in the same situation, Paladin.  My first name does not exactly have a period ring to it.  I 've been kicking around using one of my middle names instead.  As far as last names go, if I used one of middle names (instead of my given one), I'd be okay with that.  While I'm totally into what we're doing here, if someone were to Google me (say an employer or business associate), I'd prefer my professional "persona" to be the first thing they saw, rather than a pic of me armoured up and brandishing a sword ;)
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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #202 on: 2010-11-23, 16:41:35 »
That is an excellent point, Red Knight, I'm not sure which I'd rather they saw.  LOL

My first name is Roman/Latin, my second name is...I have no idea.  My last name is a rebastardization of the Olde English 'duck' or 'duke'.  lol
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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #203 on: 2010-11-23, 16:54:22 »
From the Fiatian standpoint, we use our real names. Who cares if it's period-sounding or not - it's the survival of the traditions and the ideals that matter most. Part of the appeal is that even today, anyone can become a knight if they are willing to dedicate and prove themselves of a noble stature.

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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #204 on: 2010-11-23, 17:30:12 »
Well my personae first name is my real name and as to using my last name it reveals itself with my email address and since all three of my names are period I'm good all around, Brian Thatcher Ames- So really how more anglo-saxon can one get?  :D
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« Reply #205 on: 2010-11-23, 17:40:14 »
Heh, that IS pretty cool, Sir Brian!
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« Reply #206 on: 2010-11-23, 17:57:19 »
Agreed!
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Re: Creating a society/order?
« Reply #207 on: 2010-11-23, 18:39:27 »
Hmm, If it's a privacy issue, one could simply use 1st name and last name initial. Thats where SirNathanQ comes from. SirNathanQ is pretty much my internet name.
Although the trouble is that my name is period, but from completely different regions.
Nathan Paul Quarantillo. My 1st and Mid names are english, but my last name is as italian as spaghetti!
The meaning IS pretty cool through. Quarantillo allegedly means "small group of forty" in italian. I don't think it sounds unreasonable to guess that this might be from the condottieri days. Small group of forty (lances).
Although if we're creating personas here, I think I should make it to match. 
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« Reply #208 on: 2010-11-23, 19:05:49 »

Perhaps the standard for the roster should be first name and last initial then, though it's OK to use something else entirely on a case-by-case basis if you want. I can see why some people would prefer using their middle name or something else entirely, to control what gets googled. In my case, my name is all over my websites and domain registrations anyway. I couldn't hide it if I wanted to. :)
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« Reply #209 on: 2010-11-23, 20:03:11 »
Sir Edward has put himself on blast.  lol
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