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Sir William

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Padding for Helms
« on: 2011-05-20, 19:08:04 »
I just came across Sir James' (Barker) website and did not realize it was him til I stared at it for a while...anyway, he has just completed this back in Feb 2011 and I wanted to know if anyone knew where I could get one of my own or have it made?  Also, how do you get it to stay?  Glue?  Rivets?  A combo of the two, or somewhat else?

I'm assuming Sir James made his...well, I've not the required skill so I'm going to have to pay for it.  Let me know, thanks.

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Re: Padding for Helms
« Reply #1 on: 2011-05-20, 20:43:37 »
This is a suspension liner that is held into the helm via being sewn into the bottom of the helm and the top is drawn together. I have heard that cotton, bamboo, and balled up horsehair are the best for stuffing the channels with.



However there is a second option if the liner JUST fits into your helm and that is to merely leave it in there with only the chin strap holes holding it in. At that point it is best to use one of the above with some sorbothane around the inside of the brim and over the top to help with the odd hard hit.

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Re: Padding for Helms
« Reply #3 on: 2011-05-21, 11:57:01 »
I started a topic about these three years ago, I checked the links I referenced then and they are still good.  ;)

I made my own by basically stitching equal channels into the pattern and then overstuffed it with batting then sewed it close. I stitched the Velcro onto it so I can easily remove the liner and wash it as needed which I have done dozens of time now…I assure you my liners are nowhere near as white as in those pictures! My great helm padding is very snug, actually too snug to wear a coif so consider that if you elect to wear a coif with your helm! Good luck!  :)
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Re: Padding for Helms
« Reply #4 on: 2011-05-21, 20:49:37 »
I made mine the same way.  As far as attaching it, I kind of cheated because I didn't want to drill a bunch of holes in my helm.  Instead, I took a couple of 1 1/2 washers and bent them over about 20 degrees and then attached them to the upper edge inside the hem with J&B Liquiweld.  Bend the washers over just enough so they sit fairly flush to the helm, but you can still thread the ties of your liner through the holes.
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Re: Padding for Helms
« Reply #5 on: 2011-05-22, 09:04:57 »
Hey that's a very clever and neat way of doing that! :)
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Re: Padding for Helms
« Reply #6 on: 2011-05-22, 16:14:13 »
hah! yes very cleaver hehehe

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Re: Padding for Helms
« Reply #7 on: 2011-05-24, 16:45:02 »
My Sallet liners are sewn onto a leather strap that is riveted to the helm just like the link Wolf posted to myarmory. I also have an SCA helmet done just like RauttSkegg has done, the liner is sewn to the helmet via small holes drilled around the opening.

Making the liner was not as hard as you might think. I got the shape by pushing paper into the helmet and dividing it into quarters to get the top shaping. I sewed two layers of  linen together, it is stuffed with raw cotton (can get cotton batting at a Jo Annes or any other cloth shop) and I quilted it with a sailors needle and pushed it through using a board in my lap to if the cotton was hard to push the needle through with.

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Re: Padding for Helms
« Reply #8 on: 2011-05-24, 19:41:17 »
All awesome ideas...guess I'll just have to bite the dagger and do it.  Thanks all!

I can't see MA links Sir Wolf...you knew that too, rascal.  lol
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