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Thorsteinn:

--- Quote from: Joshua Santana on 2016-04-19, 02:09:32 ---If A King or Queen in the SCA has banished several people for shadowy reasons, it is a red flag indicating something scandalous or criminal which was done or has been going on which is reason enough to keep it low key. 

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That would be sensible & good except that not one banishment in the history of ever has been done in the light. Not one has been done with transparent process. And no way can all of them have been because of scandal or crime.

And this is coming from a group whose name & founding was by two people who molested their own daughter and who's first 20+ years saw the tacit or explicit permissive use of drugs (often at felony levels), booze, underage sex, sex with underage people, & technical kidnapping.

Basically if the SCA was clean and always had been & if the SCA was known for standing for its principles when it got hard, then yes I would say they have this foundation to do what you rightfully think should, in a perfect world, be the assumption. But alas it is not.

If only we could give Joshua the keys to the Kingdom & the files, and a stick, and say "Go get em!". Not saying I wouldn't come out bruised, but I'm sure the housecleaning would not go amiss.

Joshua Santana:

--- Quote ---That would be sensible & good except that not one banishment in the history of every has been done in the light. Not one has been done with transparent process. And no way can all of them have been because of scandal or crime.
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I see.  Then each case would be different stories by default because of what you have stated.


--- Quote ---Basically if the SCA was clean and always had been & if the SCA was known for standing for its principles when it got hard, then yes I would say they have this foundation to do what you rightfully think should, in a perfect world, be the assumption. But alas it is not.
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You have stated the reality and it is one thing I would focus on which is intense house cleaning if I was out in a position of leadership.  Basically to me it would be a case of "bad company corrupts good morals," my response would be "remove the wrong company to make room for the right circle of associate or company."  This would be a case of calling for the right, committed leadership (committed to the ideal). 

 

--- Quote ---If only we could give Joshua the keys to the Kingdom & the files, and a stick, and say "Go get em!". Not saying I wouldn't come out bruised, but I'm sure the housecleaning would not go amiss.
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Lol, I don't think you would be bruised.  Though I would be uptight on house cleaning though, present company included lol.  The way I would see this is, stand by what you believe, be committed to your ideal and watch the people either draw towards or away from you.  Then watch them face the trials of the chivalric lifestyle to see who stays committed or not.

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