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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #75 on: 2014-05-28, 21:55:40 »
For SCA purposes if I a also currect you can sneak a leather gorget under the aventail, which I am guessing is more or less required. But you don't have to worry about that if your not doing SCA
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #76 on: 2014-05-28, 22:28:08 »
For SCA purposes if I a also currect you can sneak a leather gorget under the aventail, which I am guessing is more or less required. But you don't have to worry about that if your not doing SCA

For SCA purposes you can wear a pink tutu and a helmet with horns while wearing a samurai cuirass and have it all made out of a pickle barrel and be ok as long as you meet the minimum protective requirements :)
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #77 on: 2014-05-28, 23:30:30 »
For SCA purposes if I a also currect you can sneak a leather gorget under the aventail, which I am guessing is more or less required. But you don't have to worry about that if your not doing SCA

For SCA purposes you can wear a pink tutu and a helmet with horns while wearing a samurai cuirass and have it all made out of a pickle barrel and be ok as long as you meet the minimum protective requirements :)

You promised not to reveal details of my new kit until I could post the pics! ;)
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #78 on: 2014-05-28, 23:52:01 »
For SCA purposes if I a also currect you can sneak a leather gorget under the aventail, which I am guessing is more or less required. But you don't have to worry about that if your not doing SCA

For SCA purposes you can wear a pink tutu and a helmet with horns while wearing a samurai cuirass and have it all made out of a pickle barrel and be ok as long as you meet the minimum protective requirements :)

Sounds like my kinda party ;)
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #79 on: 2014-05-29, 00:24:26 »
For SCA purposes if I a also currect you can sneak a leather gorget under the aventail, which I am guessing is more or less required. But you don't have to worry about that if your not doing SCA

For SCA purposes you can wear a pink tutu and a helmet with horns while wearing a samurai cuirass and have it all made out of a pickle barrel and be ok as long as you meet the minimum protective requirements :)

But don't even think about entering the list without period footwear!   :o

(New silly rule for us considering the rest of your kit can be as described as above.)
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #80 on: 2014-05-29, 00:53:14 »
But don't even think about entering the list without period footwear!   :o

(New silly rule for us considering the rest of your kit can be as described as above.)

Too many people wearing sneakers, I assume?
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #81 on: 2014-05-29, 02:17:04 »
For SCA purposes if I a also currect you can sneak a leather gorget under the aventail, which I am guessing is more or less required. But you don't have to worry about that if your not doing SCA

For SCA purposes you can wear a pink tutu and a helmet with horns while wearing a samurai cuirass and have it all made out of a pickle barrel and be ok as long as you meet the minimum protective requirements :)

Sir Ian, that sounds like the voice of experience :)
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #82 on: 2014-05-29, 06:44:49 »
For SCA purposes if I a also currect you can sneak a leather gorget under the aventail, which I am guessing is more or less required. But you don't have to worry about that if your not doing SCA

For SCA purposes you can wear a pink tutu and a helmet with horns while wearing a samurai cuirass and have it all made out of a pickle barrel and be ok as long as you meet the minimum protective requirements :)

Sir Ian makes it sound like us SCA rattan fighters have no historical sense of being with our gear. Most of us like to look good while we pose and bash each other with our bamboo. But for all intensive purposes, he is correct. :) LOL
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #83 on: 2014-05-29, 11:25:57 »
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though I think the rondels are dished just a little too much. Slightly more flat, and they would be perfect.

Ed, reached this conclusion myself a while back. In period artwork, they appear to be pretty convex, but it bothered me for a long time that when I actually made them I thought it didn't look right to my eye despite being what period depictions seemed to show ( perhaps the result of seeing a 2D depiction of something in 3D ). I shallowed them out a few years back. I'd be happy to replace them for you, no charge.

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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #84 on: 2014-05-29, 11:59:09 »
ya you don't need any neck defense, but a pisan/standard mail collar looks pretty awesome. esp if you walk around all day without your helmet w/ aventail

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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #85 on: 2014-05-30, 03:59:55 »
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though I think the rondels are dished just a little too much. Slightly more flat, and they would be perfect.

Ed, reached this conclusion myself a while back. In period artwork, they appear to be pretty convex, but it bothered me for a long time that when I actually made them I thought it didn't look right to my eye despite being what period depictions seemed to show ( perhaps the result of seeing a 2D depiction of something in 3D ). I shallowed them out a few years back. I'd be happy to replace them for you, no charge.

Al, I can’t remember what year I picked up my rondels from you, but I love them!  I can’t count the number of compliments I’ve received over the years and I always point them in your direction.

I was in an SCA tournament in 2012 and a “hold” was called when my opponent wacked a rondel and sent it flying.  The marshal seemed very concerned until I proved that it was “armour bling” and the fight could continue without it.   ;D
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #86 on: 2014-05-30, 04:04:45 »
But don't even think about entering the list without period footwear!   :o

(New silly rule for us considering the rest of your kit can be as described as above.)

Too many people wearing sneakers, I assume?

Yes.  The white shoes, plastic, and nylon were a bit much.  Not to mention the Nike swoosh is not documentable to any SCA period!   ;)
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #87 on: 2014-05-30, 04:18:17 »
But don't even think about entering the list without period footwear!   :o

(New silly rule for us considering the rest of your kit can be as described as above.)

Too many people wearing sneakers, I assume?

Yes.  The white shoes, plastic, and nylon were a bit much.  Not to mention the Nike swoosh is not documentable to any SCA period!   ;)

Now when you say period, do you mean period period or look period
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #88 on: 2014-05-30, 05:13:25 »
Now when you say period, do you mean period period or look period

Ha!  :)

I meant any period within the SCA’s huge range of 1,000 years from approximately 600 AD to 1600 AD.  For example, my favorite period is 1350-1375 in southern England / northern France.
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Re: Where to begin? New Kit in the working..
« Reply #89 on: 2014-05-30, 12:59:53 »
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though I think the rondels are dished just a little too much. Slightly more flat, and they would be perfect.

Ed, reached this conclusion myself a while back. In period artwork, they appear to be pretty convex, but it bothered me for a long time that when I actually made them I thought it didn't look right to my eye despite being what period depictions seemed to show ( perhaps the result of seeing a 2D depiction of something in 3D ). I shallowed them out a few years back. I'd be happy to replace them for you, no charge.

That is a very generous offer, my friend! I'll let you know. Right now they're not really bothering me too much. I might combine that with something else, down the line.
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