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Re: Proper Medieval Footwear
« Reply #15 on: 2014-02-05, 13:57:59 »
hahahaha.

ya i think i've lost more information over the years than i care to remember. some turn shoes have rands, others welts, others don't. stitch thru the sides and thru a 45 angle on the bottoms.  for great books check out: Stepping Through Time: Archaeological Footwear from Prehistoric Times until 1800 and Shoes and Pattens (Medieval Finds from Excavations in London)

i make all my shoes. and no i will not take orders hahahaha.

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Re: Proper Medieval Footwear
« Reply #16 on: 2014-02-05, 15:04:27 »
hahahaha.

ya i think i've lost more information over the years than i care to remember. some turn shoes have rands, others welts, others don't. stitch thru the sides and thru a 45 angle on the bottoms.  for great books check out: Stepping Through Time: Archaeological Footwear from Prehistoric Times until 1800 and Shoes and Pattens (Medieval Finds from Excavations in London)

i make all my shoes. and no i will not take orders hahahaha.


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Re: Proper Medieval Footwear
« Reply #17 on: 2014-02-05, 15:33:30 »
i make all my shoes. and no i will not take orders hahahaha.

You won't even take orders from the Order? What if the Order orders you to take orders? ;)
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Re: Proper Medieval Footwear
« Reply #18 on: 2014-02-05, 15:49:58 »
hah. you are a funny guy.

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Re: Proper Medieval Footwear
« Reply #19 on: 2014-02-05, 22:41:38 »
I actually enjoy wearing sneakers at my nearby renfaire as a joke.
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Re: Proper Medieval Footwear
« Reply #20 on: 2014-02-05, 22:43:37 »
you like to poke puppies in the eyes with sharp sticks to don't you? lol jk

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« Reply #21 on: 2014-02-05, 22:46:02 »
The fact that I wear sneakers means I'll preform better in combat.

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I do poke puppies in eyes with sticks.
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Re: Proper Medieval Footwear
« Reply #22 on: 2014-02-05, 22:49:17 »
meh, but we will know and call you a farb lol jk

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« Reply #23 on: 2014-02-05, 22:53:35 »
My uncle called me farb once.... Once!
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Re: Proper Medieval Footwear
« Reply #24 on: 2014-02-06, 04:50:09 »
I have pair of true turn shoes and a pair of the Viking Leather Craft imports.  The turn shoes are cheap and moccasin like in feel but very comfortable.   I think the sole would wear through quickly on rough rocky ground.  But, they could be resoled easily by period methods.      The import shoes are made specifically so they can be resoled by a modern shoe repairer.  That was one of their selling points by the vendor.  I thought the healess design would play havoc with an old injury in one leg.  Just the opposite.  My feet and legs were not nearly as fatigued as Thry would have been in modern shoes after three days on my feet at DOK last year.
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Re: Proper Medieval Footwear
« Reply #25 on: 2014-02-06, 16:32:36 »
So which one has a healess design? VLC or turnshoes?

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« Reply #26 on: 2014-02-06, 17:29:37 »
Belemrys,

Both are healess designs.  The heal as we know it, did not appear until late in the Medieval period when welted sole shoes appeared.

Having said that, I added a piece of leather where a heal would normally be on the Viking shoes only because I could tell that the edges of the back sole would wear through quickly due to my gimpy leg on one side.  I can peal that off and replace it easily and prevent unecessary trips to the shoe repair.
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Re: Proper Medieval Footwear
« Reply #27 on: 2014-02-06, 20:12:42 »
Belemrys,

Both are healess designs.  The heal as we know it, did not appear until late in the Medieval period when welted sole shoes appeared.

Having said that, I added a piece of leather where a heal would normally be on the Viking shoes only because I could tell that the edges of the back sole would wear through quickly due to my gimpy leg on one side.  I can peal that off and replace it easily and prevent unecessary trips to the shoe repair.

I believe Frank @ VLC will add a heel if requested. I can't remember off the top of my head, but I think my lugged soles addition also has a heel. Default is no heel, though.. so if you hear conflicting info that "My VLC has a heel" and "mine doesn't" it's because it's optional.
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Re: Proper Medieval Footwear
« Reply #28 on: 2014-02-07, 17:19:42 »
Belemrys,

Both are healess designs.  The heal as we know it, did not appear until late in the Medieval period when welted sole shoes appeared.

Having said that, I added a piece of leather where a heal would normally be on the Viking shoes only because I could tell that the edges of the back sole would wear through quickly due to my gimpy leg on one side.  I can peal that off and replace it easily and prevent unecessary trips to the shoe repair.

I believe Frank @ VLC will add a heel if requested. I can't remember off the top of my head, but I think my lugged soles addition also has a heel. Default is no heel, though.. so if you hear conflicting info that "My VLC has a heel" and "mine doesn't" it's because it's optional.

Makes sense! I thought I had heard his had heals.

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Re: Proper Medieval Footwear
« Reply #29 on: 2014-02-19, 23:45:22 »
I actually enjoy wearing sneakers at my nearby renfaire as a joke.

I just noticed your quote Nate, what a fantastically obscure reference :)  I bet not many people get it without looking it up, but I just started over again after level 56, so it's fresh in my mind.