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Re: My confusion on Men at Arms, and Knights.
« Reply #15 on: 2014-02-03, 00:30:45 »
but what about my pirate ninja categories? where do they fall in Ian?

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Re: My confusion on Men at Arms, and Knights.
« Reply #16 on: 2014-02-03, 00:48:10 »
but what about my pirate ninja categories? where do they fall in Ian?

Knights, definitely knights.
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Re: My confusion on Men at Arms, and Knights.
« Reply #17 on: 2014-02-03, 03:04:51 »
but what about my pirate ninja categories? where do they fall in Ian?

Knights, definitely knights.

Ninja pirates, are Ninjas, Just because they choose to be a pirate, doesn't mean there a new breed of people.
Same goes for Futuristic Samurai, zombie robots, alien robots, Ninja robots, etc.
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Re: My confusion on Men at Arms, and Knights.
« Reply #18 on: 2014-02-03, 04:35:50 »
but what about my pirate ninja categories? where do they fall in Ian?

Knights, definitely knights.

Aaaaaarrrr, m'lord, they will never see me coming, with my cutlass katana, and heater shield.
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Re: My confusion on Men at Arms, and Knights.
« Reply #19 on: 2014-02-03, 15:22:11 »
but what about my pirate ninja categories? where do they fall in Ian?

Knights, definitely knights.

Ninja pirates, are Ninjas, Just because they choose to be a pirate, doesn't mean there a new breed of people.
Same goes for Futuristic Samurai, zombie robots, alien robots, Ninja robots, etc.
Scratch zombie robots.

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Re: My confusion on Men at Arms, and Knights.
« Reply #20 on: 2014-02-03, 15:31:30 »
but what about my pirate ninja categories? where do they fall in Ian?

Knights, definitely knights.

Aaaaaarrrr, m'lord, they will never see me coming, with my cutlass katana, and heater shield.

Alas they could still *smell* you…lest you forget not to bathe!  ;)

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Re: My confusion on Men at Arms, and Knights.
« Reply #21 on: 2014-02-03, 17:17:32 »
but what about my pirate ninja categories? where do they fall in Ian?

Knights, definitely knights.

Aaaaaarrrr, m'lord, they will never see me coming, with my cutlass katana, and heater shield.

Alas they could still *smell* you…lest you forget not to bathe!  ;)

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Re: My confusion on Men at Arms, and Knights.
« Reply #22 on: 2014-02-03, 17:26:28 »
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Re: My confusion on Men at Arms, and Knights.
« Reply #23 on: 2014-02-03, 20:00:32 »
Man-at-arms is a blanket term that covers approximately all of the things.
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Re: My confusion on Men at Arms, and Knights.
« Reply #24 on: 2014-02-03, 20:35:31 »
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Re: My confusion on Men at Arms, and Knights.
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Remember the Star Wars one?

Alright so men at arms are anyone that bears arms.
Except the French. They are just, At arms
There is no men in French.
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Re: My confusion on Men at Arms, and Knights.
« Reply #26 on: 2014-02-03, 23:13:55 »
Ok two fictional ones then:

The Doctor.

B5 Rangers.
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Re: My confusion on Men at Arms, and Knights.
« Reply #27 on: 2014-02-03, 23:42:34 »
Ok two fictional ones then:

The Doctor.

B5 Rangers.

Instead of that what are your thoughts on huscarls and condotierri.  You posted the question, I'm curious what you think.
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Re: My confusion on Men at Arms, and Knights.
« Reply #28 on: 2014-02-04, 19:57:55 »
Ok two fictional ones then:

The Doctor.

B5 Rangers.

Instead of that what are your thoughts on huscarls and condotierri.  You posted the question, I'm curious what you think.

Not directly addressing me, but since Condotierri fall in one of my armor styles of interest - I'd classify them as Men At Arms. They were typically mercenaries / hired hands. They focused on either flat out battlefield combat (as leaders), or political battles. It's not a subject I've read much about, but nothing chivalrous comes to mind.

Huscarls, I'm curious about. The fictional stuff, not so much.
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Re: My confusion on Men at Arms, and Knights.
« Reply #29 on: 2014-02-04, 20:12:22 »
So was Sir John Hawkwood not a knight?  You kind of jumped on the one category (condottierri) where we undoubtedly know there were knights being contracted by the Italian city-states.
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