New Schynbalds

[Sir Ulrich]

Well I ordered a pair from Allan Senefelder, I plan to wear them over my maille chausses which they actually do a good job on their own of holding them to my leg, Prehaps I will need less lacing than previously thought. I am quite liking this plate and maille transitional era stuff, now to try both on with my chausses laced.

[Ian]

Very nice!  Yeah, I bet the straps of the schynbalds really help hold on the chausses.  The lacing on the lower legs should be a little less tricky with that set up.

[Lord Dane]

Very nice. I like the articulation and rivet work on the knee cop.

[Sir James A]

Awesome, congrats.

[Sir Wolf]

very nice

[Sir William]

Very nice pick up, Ulrich.  Having had a few pairs pass thru my hands I can honestly say they are the best off the rack option I've had thus far.  Looks good on you, man.  Love the fluted knee cops- its a great look.

[Sir Ulrich]

Heres a depiction of lace in the back chausses being used with schynbalds and knee cops just like what I am doing. Rather happy I found it cause now I KNOW it was used historically.

[Ian]

Do you have the date on that image?  I'm glad you found what you were looking for though.  It's always a relief to find something that confirms what you want to do is actually period.

[Sir James A]

That's an interesting image, both for the chausses/schynbalds, and also the knee cops come to points instead of a squared-off sides.

Now I'm wondering if that's in other artwork that I've missed....

[Lord Dane]

You shall be a medieval historian yet Sir Ulrich. Nice work!!

[Ian]

I posted this to the DoK facebook as well, but here's the source of your image Sir Ulrich.

It's from The Trinity Apocalypse, Cambridge, Trinity College Library, MS R.16.2, ca 1250, folio 23r

You can skip to Folio 023R to get to your image:
http://www.trin.cam.ac.uk/james/show.php?index=1199  (I recommend the full page view, it's quite awesome)

It's also worth noting that that armor configuration is depicted on a king, not just some random man-at-arms.

[Sir Ulrich]

Thats 1250? Seriously? I thought it was later or so. Guess schynbalds have an earlier date, but maybe only nobles could afford them, surely by 1300 normal people could afford them. I do know they had early coat of plates back in the 1250s but they were typically not overlapping and were worn under the maille due to the gaps. No surviving examples I think made it though and we'll never know how common they were.