Ah, the first one I have seen before as well as the second one. But the first video disappeared now it seems to of been updated. I notice he doesn't drill the holes to put the hole for the rivets in the maille. He uses a drift for round ring maille, thats how it is made correctly, punching it actually weakens the link and metal, as well as makes the rivets more likely to pop. The second video that guy IS making maille the historical way, he's just using wedge rivets instead of round, which wedge riveted links are period from the mid 13th century but only in Germany, by the 14th it spread outward, judging by what I have read from Dan Howard's writings and posts on MyArmoury. I dont think I could ever make my own riveted maille looking at these videos, maybe I could make something small like a pair of mittens or a standard or maybe a ventail to add to my coif, but a full hauberk with an integrated coif? I'd rather just pay for it with money, would take less time earning the money and paying someone to do it. But still interesting stuff.