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Re: How a Knight Shall be Armed - 4th grade style
« Reply #15 on: 2012-06-01, 22:32:59 »
Ugh, zero tolerance is such BS. Please don't get me started, I'm still in school with that accursed policy... :P
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Re: How a Knight Shall be Armed - 4th grade style
« Reply #16 on: 2012-06-01, 23:39:23 »
So glad I live in the West.

Sign outside of Churchill County High School in Fallon about 60 miles away "Students, please remove all shotguns, rifles, and pistols from your vehicle and person before coming on campus."

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Re: How a Knight Shall be Armed - 4th grade style
« Reply #17 on: 2012-06-02, 00:29:52 »
I may have mentioned this previously, but here it goes.  Within the past year or so a kid was suspended from a Twin Cities public school for having a box cutter in his car.

By all accounts he was a responsible young man helping his family pay the bills by stocking supermarket shelves at night.  One night he worked a ton of overtime, went home, crashed, and managed to get up in time for school the next morning.   A passerby noticed the box cutter in his car the next morning while it was parked in the student parking lot.  The police were called, councilors were brought in and he was suspended.

The box cutter was in his locked vehicle; he was not brandishing it, he was not bragging about it, in fact he had totally forgotten about it.  This situation was total and utter B.S. in my opinion.
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I’ll never forget the day in high school (so long ago) when the morning announcements included the message that we couldn’t bring guns to school anymore.  I grew up in a very rural area where everyone hunted.  Every truck in the parking lot had a weapon rack.  You could’ve armed a small army.  No one was ever hurt.  These are indeed sad times.
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Re: How a Knight Shall be Armed - 4th grade style
« Reply #18 on: 2012-06-02, 03:24:43 »
So glad I live in the West.

Sign outside of Churchill County High School in Fallon about 60 miles away "Students, please remove all shotguns, rifles, and pistols from your vehicle and person before coming on campus."

Bonus points if you can tell me what national big time program is at NAS Fallon. (Hint: It used to be at Miramar NAS)

Well, being a navy pilot myself I'm at a distinct advantage here... but the answer to your question is both Fighter Weapons School (Top Gun) and Rotary Wing Weapons School.  I'm assuming you meant Top Gun... but jets are for sissies, real men fly helicopters.
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Re: How a Knight Shall be Armed - 4th grade style
« Reply #19 on: 2012-06-02, 11:19:34 »
And Ian is correct on both accounts.  :D

Had a jet pilot tell me that copters don't fly, they beat the air into sumbmission. ;)
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Re: How a Knight Shall be Armed - 4th grade style
« Reply #20 on: 2012-06-02, 11:37:26 »
Beat the air into submission! I love that!  ;D
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Re: How a Knight Shall be Armed - 4th grade style
« Reply #21 on: 2012-06-02, 13:36:02 »
but jets are for sissies, real men fly helicopters.

Heck yeah. Had I gone into the service, I'd have wanted to fly helicopters. They probably wouldn't have taken me though, due to my strong vision prescription.
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Re: How a Knight Shall be Armed - 4th grade style
« Reply #22 on: 2012-06-02, 18:42:00 »
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I may have mentioned this previously, but here it goes.  Within the past year or so a kid was suspended from a Twin Cities public school for having a box cutter in his car.

By all accounts he was a responsible young man helping his family pay the bills by stocking supermarket shelves at night.  One night he worked a ton of overtime, went home, crashed, and managed to get up in time for school the next morning.   A passerby noticed the box cutter in his car the next morning while it was parked in the student parking lot.  The police were called, councilors were brought in and he was suspended.

The box cutter was in his locked vehicle; he was not brandishing it, he was not bragging about it, in fact he had totally forgotten about it.  This situation was total and utter B.S. in my opinion.
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I’ll never forget the day in high school (so long ago) when the morning announcements included the message that we couldn’t bring guns to school anymore.  I grew up in a very rural area where everyone hunted.  Every truck in the parking lot had a weapon rack.  You could’ve armed a small army.  No one was ever hurt.  These are indeed sad times.

Indeed, does anyone remember the time there was a video on a kid who wanted to represent his class in Spirit week by riding a horse and being dressed as a Knight, later on got suspended without a reason?  A shame indeed. 
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Re: How a Knight Shall be Armed - 4th grade style
« Reply #23 on: 2012-06-03, 01:31:32 »
Lord Rodney, that's awesome! I kept thinking I should do something for my brother's class when they were doing medieval studies, but I'd never make it through the front door with a gauntlet, let alone a harness & weaponry. Those are some lucky, lucky kids ... I hope they realize that!

And I'd frame that bonnacon drawing. That is absolutely priceless!

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I may have mentioned this previously, but here it goes.  Within the past year or so a kid was suspended from a Twin Cities public school for having a box cutter in his car.

By all accounts he was a responsible young man helping his family pay the bills by stocking supermarket shelves at night.  One night he worked a ton of overtime, went home, crashed, and managed to get up in time for school the next morning.   A passerby noticed the box cutter in his car the next morning while it was parked in the student parking lot.  The police were called, councilors were brought in and he was suspended.

The box cutter was in his locked vehicle; he was not brandishing it, he was not bragging about it, in fact he had totally forgotten about it.  This situation was total and utter B.S. in my opinion.
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I’ll never forget the day in high school (so long ago) when the morning announcements included the message that we couldn’t bring guns to school anymore.  I grew up in a very rural area where everyone hunted.  Every truck in the parking lot had a weapon rack.  You could’ve armed a small army.  No one was ever hurt.  These are indeed sad times.

Indeed, does anyone remember the time there was a video on a kid who wanted to represent his class in Spirit week by riding a horse and being dressed as a Knight, later on got suspended without a reason?  A shame indeed. 

He wasn't suspended without reason, just suspended because school administration lacks any common sense whatsoever:

http://www.pawnation.com/2010/11/04/high-school-student-suspended-for-riding-a-horse-to-school/

He arrived with his parents (and their blessing), along with a squire (his friend). It was for school Spirit week. And he was suspended on the spot. His squire, not even riding the horse, was suspended too. You can't get more "evil" than that ... right?
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Re: How a Knight Shall be Armed - 4th grade style
« Reply #24 on: 2012-06-03, 01:40:00 »

It amazes me how much even the semblance of weaponry (including armor, knights, or anything military related) freaks these people out. All of these school administrators would fall over dead with a brain aneurism if they saw the inside of my house. It might serve them right too.

Was that my out-loud voice? :)
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Re: How a Knight Shall be Armed - 4th grade style
« Reply #25 on: 2012-06-03, 03:48:36 »
Maybe it was  ;)   

Ahh, hell with it, that was a great post. Use the out-loud voice more often please   :D
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Re: How a Knight Shall be Armed - 4th grade style
« Reply #26 on: 2012-06-03, 05:10:13 »
Wow, and I thought my 4th grade teacher was cool because he gave us candy as class rewards. But THIS, that would have made school actually intresting! hahaha pretty awesome though
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Re: How a Knight Shall be Armed - 4th grade style
« Reply #27 on: 2012-06-03, 12:30:01 »
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Wow, and I thought my 4th grade teacher was cool because he gave us candy as class rewards. But THIS, that would have made school actually intresting! hahaha pretty awesome though

Indeed, demonstrations like this one help in making school interesting.
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Re: How a Knight Shall be Armed - 4th grade style
« Reply #28 on: 2012-06-13, 18:01:29 »
Nice one Lord Rodney.
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Re: How a Knight Shall be Armed - 4th grade style
« Reply #29 on: 2012-06-13, 19:36:01 »
As with many things begun with the best of intentions, it fails miserably when applied to real life.  The people getting dinged by this policy aren't the ones it was originally aimed at- dangerous people. 

That's like the kid with the cake knife...I might've mentioned that already but it seemed to me that school administrators aren't putting much thought into their jobs, allowing policy to rule where common sense used to.
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