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[Sir Ulrich]

I always thought of them as layed back but, they tend to call me a snob because I am into historical accuracy and get mad at me when I point out whats accurate and what isnt. I dont even try to be rude I'm just stating what I know about my kit and whatnot and what is accurate on it and what isnt. Guess thats cause they enjoy being farby. I am just way too obsessed with history and prefer the European style of reenacting to the American "competitive sport" SCA style stuff.

Also cant stand the fake accents they put on which is quite hard for me to do cause I suck at doing a British accent and I prefer to talk normally and casually. Hence why I sucked at LARPing when I went to it, I actually dont believe people in the UK even SPOKE with British accents in the middle ages as middle English was actually closer to AMERICAN English, the older accent types got preserved in America similar to how Quebec French is closer to medieval French than modern French is.. Mainly southern accents were Western British combined with Scottish, while New Englanders talked like how east Anglians talked in the 1500s, while NY/NJ accents like mine were the older form of Cockney English spoken in the 1600s. Generally I believe people talked differently back then and I believe that modern British accents are a relatively recent thing. Same reason Aussies have some similarities between Americans is because their accent types got preserved while British English was in the transitional phase between American type English and modern British English. In any case I havent a clue how to talk like a Brit and I fail so badly at it (as bad as Dick van Dyke did in Mary Poppins) that I just talk with my normal voice with occasionally using old fashioned words.

[Sir Matthew]

I ussually don't have any trouple with LARPers, it's those idiots that are doing the anime and video games that get to me. I always say that's a cute outfit you have, but mine's all real and walk away.

[Sir Ulrich]

Yeah, those people are never cool. You also got the types that think their swords are real when they're just stainless chinese or indian made JUNK. Hell I had one tell me he thought he could cut through my maille. I told him go ahead, I guarantee you the sword might break on impact and my maille will hold. I guess I am a bit too haughty and confident about my knowledge with medieval arms and armor that I like to educate people about it. I actually had people at a medieval club call me arrogant and snobbish over it too. I am not even trying to mean harm at all, I guess not many people are used to being lectured by someone very confident about what he's saying. I guess living history types aren't very well welcome in the SCA, partly why I wanna move to Europe..

[Sir William]

I find that if you impart the information without being condescending (or haughty, holier-than-thou, or know-it-all if you prefer those terms) you'll find your audience much more receptive.  The bottom line is, even if they're acting like that, it doesn't do to combat such attitudes with the same...that could just be a prelude to an altercation at an event where everyone is supposed to be enjoying themselves and having a good time. 

Nothing wrong with knowing your subject, but lecturing is best left to classroom and informative sessions- when dealing with the public mundanes, the less stand-offish you are, the more receptive they will be to whatever it is you're trying to say.  Just my humble opinion...and years of experience in giving and receiving training lectures.  Its easy to talk when you know what the hell you're talking about, but it may not be so easy to understand if your demeanor puts people off from the outset.

[Joshua Santana]

I find that if you impart the information without being condescending (or haughty, holier-than-thou, or know-it-all if you prefer those terms) you'll find your audience much more receptive.  The bottom line is, even if they're acting like that, it doesn't do to combat such attitudes with the same...that could just be a prelude to an altercation at an event where everyone is supposed to be enjoying themselves and having a good time.

Nothing wrong with knowing your subject, but lecturing is best left to classroom and informative sessions- when dealing with the public mundanes, the less stand-offish you are, the more receptive they will be to whatever it is you're trying to say.  Just my humble opinion...and years of experience in giving and receiving training lectures.  Its easy to talk when you know what the hell you're talking about, but it may not be so easy to understand if your demeanor puts people off from the outset.

Quite true Sir William.  You can give information as though you expect people to listen to you while you rant on and on sounding like a know it all.  That will detract your audience away from you.  Rather be Courteous to say "I don't think because look it from these perspectives...."  or "that has been tested and is proven to be false or not true".  This may not be easy for you, but practicing it will help in the long run.

The same thing can be said when it comes to telling people about Chivalry. People in general will have differing perspectives or thoughts on Chivalry, half them are true while the other half is completely false and offensive.  Yet being Courteous and tempering your voice tone and overall temper shows you have discipline.  It is better to say "true that you have been told that but that has been proven false and here is how and why" rather than "you are wrong, end of discussion".  Don't forget you represent the Ideals that we all here believe in.  The same goes for me as well.  By being a representative, you have to respect the fact that people these days are not educated as we are, approach it as if you are teaching Chivalry to a classroom or lecture full of Tabula Rasa's (Blank Slates) or people with vague ideas or notions.  The only problem that would appear would be people who find Chivalry difficult to apply in daily life, or those who hold on to their beliefs with haughty zeal. 

This is my take on it but I am glad you didn't loose your temper.  Remember LARPers are fanatics that can be tamed with demonstrating how mail withstands sword cuts and how Western Martial Arts is complex and sophisticated as Oriental Martial Arts.     

[Sir William]

Well said, Sir Joshua...and realize that some people, no matter how courteous you are, may not be receptive to being told or instructed that what they currently believe is in fact, wrong.  That's when you smile, give a salute and move on in search of better options with which to spend your time.  I hate wasting my breath as you can never get it back, don't you? 

[Sir Brian]

i.e.
Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces. 

[Sir William]

Pigs like pearls?  Fancy that! 

All japes aside, that, too, was well said, Sir Brian.

[Joshua Santana]

and realize that some people, no matter how courteous you are, may not be receptive to being told or instructed that what they currently believe is in fact, wrong.  That's when you smile, give a salute and move on in search of better options with which to spend your time.  I hate wasting my breath as you can never get it back, don't you? 

Indeed.   

i.e.
Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn and tear you in pieces. 

YES!  EXACTLY!