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Re: Attaching an Aventail
« Reply #15 on: 2012-04-16, 20:46:19 »
Sweet!  :)
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Re: Attaching an Aventail
« Reply #16 on: 2012-04-16, 22:27:35 »
It has arrived!

3 days from click to your door? Nice!
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Re: Attaching an Aventail
« Reply #17 on: 2012-04-17, 01:07:05 »
dang thats fast

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Re: Attaching an Aventail
« Reply #18 on: 2012-04-17, 21:58:51 »
Smart purchase, I can't wait to see the results!

All I know is 14th century bascinets were historically attached to the leather via some sort of heavy thread in the examples I've seen.  This is the Lyle Bascinet in the Royal Armouries, and you can make out the thread sewn through the leather and then the upper most rings of the aventail.





I used the same method with some success as well as disappointment, most probably due to inferior materials and/or knowledge.  The thread I used first was the Tandy waxed variety.  After 8 total hours of SCA combat, the thread shredded (due to my inability to block a certain King's wrap shots  ;) ).  I then used the Tandy synthetic thread which seemed to last a little longer, but eventually failed in the same manner.  Finally I just wove the top row of mail through the existing thread holes in the leather band.  This was a cheat, but I haven’t had a problem since.

You might want to pony up for some much heavier thread as shown in the photograph.  It may be that this heavier thread will wear much better.

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Re: Attaching an Aventail
« Reply #19 on: 2012-04-17, 22:01:37 »
Sverdbrjotr (Sword-breaker) now engraved on both sides of the helm aventail strap. Time to punch the holes for the aventail.

I will be lacing it on with a double line of thread saddle stitch style.

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Re: Attaching an Aventail
« Reply #20 on: 2012-04-19, 01:12:11 »
Todays progress. Tonight will be rivets & sewing.

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Re: Attaching an Aventail
« Reply #21 on: 2012-04-19, 11:32:41 »
awesome. now how did you do it? any rings have to be removed to tighten it up? or added or what?

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Re: Attaching an Aventail
« Reply #22 on: 2012-04-19, 18:06:52 »
awesome. now how did you do it? any rings have to be removed to tighten it up? or added or what?

What do you mean?

I attached the rings to the row of punched holes on the belt-weight leather band on the backside via a saddle & whip stitch combo.
Then I added some leather edging to the bottom.
Then I figured out where the 8 rivets had to go (2 are holding my chin-strap on).
Then I pulled out the nasal a little.
Then I did some riveting (the 6 holes I had to drill were too small).
Then I laced on the maille to the top facegrill bar.


I used the this topic to help with the patterning of the rings.

Shot of same helm pre- aventail.

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Re: Attaching an Aventail... AND Done!
« Reply #23 on: 2012-04-20, 09:01:53 »
Rivets in.

Torse & favor on.

Padding & chinstrap in.





Hope to have some pics of me in full kit this weekend. :D

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Re: Attaching an Aventail... AND Done!
« Reply #24 on: 2012-04-20, 14:32:13 »

Hey great! I look forward to seeing the whole kit.
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Re: Attaching an Aventail... AND Done!
« Reply #25 on: 2012-04-20, 14:40:29 »
Me too, looks like you did a fantastic job there, Ivan.
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Re: Attaching an Aventail... AND Done!
« Reply #26 on: 2012-04-20, 18:46:23 »
Me too, looks like you did a fantastic job there, Ivan.

Yep, great job Ivan.
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Re: Attaching an Aventail... AND Done!
« Reply #27 on: 2012-04-21, 16:40:11 »
Awesome. I've always loved that look.
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