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Re: Maille chausses
« Reply #15 on: 2012-02-09, 22:15:56 »
Ulrich, one last, just came across these and they have exactly what you're looking for:

http://www.truehearth.com/legs.html

I was looking at the articulated knee cup and one piece greaves...$130 for a set in mild, $240 for stainless.  Add $18 for strapping, unless you're up for doing it yourself.
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Re: Maille chausses
« Reply #16 on: 2012-02-10, 17:44:13 »
I've always had trouble finding good cased greaves (the front and back full-wrap style), and found a number of places who only make the front-plate / gutter plate style greaves.
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Re: Maille chausses
« Reply #17 on: 2012-02-10, 23:28:52 »
I always have trouble finding late 13-early 14th century plate armor for some reason. I did find some rather high quality stuff at historical enterprises but it's expensive as f**k as it's tempered and spring quality. Probably worth it but don't have the money for it right now.

Now the last link you posted probably what I am gonna get, rather reasonably priced at only slightly more expensive than mercenary's tailor (which would of been my first choice but I didnt have the money at the time to buy it), only issue is heard greaves are VERY uncomfortable without padding. The last link I'm debating on getting them connected or separate, separate would be more versatile and period probably. They're not padded obviously so I'm gonna need padding under the rather thin linen chausses I already have.

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Re: Maille chausses
« Reply #18 on: 2012-02-14, 14:27:30 »
I thought you said you would wear padding underneath?
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Re: Maille chausses
« Reply #19 on: 2012-02-14, 19:18:04 »
Historically you would have "bulwarks", which is a "knee wrap", basically. It pads the upper part of the greaves and lower part of the cuisse from digging into your legs. There's a picture of it in "The World of the Medieval Knight" - http://www.amazon.com/Medieval-Knight-Christopher-Gravett/dp/0872262774
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Re: Maille chausses
« Reply #20 on: 2012-02-16, 06:08:36 »
I'd probably have a new gambeson and padded chausses by now if my folks werent so "iffy" about me ordering overseas. I cant find a single place that offers a linen gambeson and padded chausses to go under my armor.

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Re: Maille chausses
« Reply #21 on: 2012-02-16, 12:11:28 »
i think vitus on the armour archive is working or selling linen leg padding. i remember a post some time last month...

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Re: Maille chausses
« Reply #22 on: 2012-02-16, 13:11:45 »
only issue is heard greaves are VERY uncomfortable without padding. The last link I'm debating on getting them connected or separate, separate would be more versatile and period probably. They're not padded obviously so I'm gonna need padding under the rather thin linen chausses I already have.

Greaves are quite comfortable when made properly.  They're one of the most difficult pieces of armor to make correctly because they must be shaped to your leg so well.  This is the one piece of armor that my armorer had to take molds of my leg to do right.  The weight of the greave should be supported by the shape of the leg and rest on the calf.  They become uncomfortable when they're made short and dig in to your shin because they're shaped improperly, or when they're too big and all the weight of the greave rests on the top of your foot.  This is how most modern munition greaves are done unfortunately.  Schynbalds are also period and require much less precision of fit and form, and are way cheaper.

I'd probably have a new gambeson and padded chausses by now if my folks werent so "iffy" about me ordering overseas. I cant find a single place that offers a linen gambeson and padded chausses to go under my armor.

1. Made in America, but not cheap, and they're off-the-rack sizes http://www.revivalclothing.com/14thcenturylinengambeson.aspx
2. Sir Gareth not only makes Gambesons but also makes the Gamboised Cuisses you're looking for http://gambesons.com/category/gambesons  **Standard gambeson is in cotton denim, but he'll do it in Linen as well according to his site
3. Jessica Finley will make anything you want out of anything you want http://fuhlendesigns.com/  **Price comparable to the Revival Clothing offering, BUT this is full custom work and will fit your body perfectly!!  She's also awesome to do business with, and I bet she can make you gamboised cuisses as well.

The term you should search for also is either gamboised cuisse, or padded cuisse, not necessarly chausses, as chausses more refers to a piece of clothing, not a piece of padded armor.
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Re: Maille chausses
« Reply #23 on: 2012-02-16, 14:56:02 »
3. Jessica Finley will make anything you want out of anything you want http://fuhlendesigns.com/  **Price comparable to the Revival Clothing offering, BUT this is full custom work and will fit your body perfectly!!  She's also awesome to do business with, and I bet she can make you gamboised cuisses as well.

I'll vouch for Jess's work. I've gotten a chance to see some of it close-up recently (she moved into our area, and lives about 20 minutes from me now).

She definitely is amazingly flexible with materials. One of her pieces that I got to see at VAF last week was one made with non-newtonian fluid material as part of the armor. You know, like silly-putty that gets hard under an impact, but is flexible rest of the time. I think she said that she won't work with that particular material again.... but it's an example of her willingness to experiment.

She also makes things quite durable.
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Re: Maille chausses
« Reply #24 on: 2012-02-17, 05:13:26 »
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One of her pieces that I got to see at VAF last week was one made with non-newtonian fluid material as part of the armor. You know, like silly-putty that gets hard under an impact, but is flexible rest of the time.

Who was the client?  Batman? ;)
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Re: Maille chausses
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« Reply #26 on: 2012-02-17, 13:09:36 »
You know, I hadn't considered that. Someone in my class is batman. Cool! :)
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Re: Maille chausses
« Reply #27 on: 2012-02-17, 13:39:46 »
Yeah but is he Michael Keaton, George Clooney or Christian Bale type of Batman?  ;)

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Re: Maille chausses
« Reply #28 on: 2012-02-17, 14:55:07 »
Michael Keaton was awesome in my book...you got a comedic actor who actually pulled it off, I was proud of him.  I thought Val Kilmer also made an excellent Batman.  Christian Bale is awesome...period.

I liked Adam West too...you knew what to expect, I looked forward to Batman as a kid!  You can figure out who I did not like.  ;)
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« Reply #29 on: 2012-02-17, 15:06:50 »
That's right! I totally forgot about Val Kilmer playing batman!
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