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Re: awesome stuff
« Reply #1 on: 2012-01-05, 17:05:40 »
Cool, my brother would be interested in this, thanks Sir Wolf  ;)
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Re: awesome stuff
« Reply #2 on: 2012-01-05, 17:07:04 »
Crap! I have to wait ALL day until I get back home before I get to see it!  :(
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Re: awesome stuff
« Reply #3 on: 2012-01-05, 18:57:03 »


Crusader outfit 12th/13th cent.

Century - Sources:
Complete 12-13 th. cent. crusader outfit
Notes:  http://www.medievaldesign.com/eng-prodotti-uomo.asp?form_chiave=27
Available with different crosses or colors for other military Orders
Package includes:
Cloak; undertunic
Tunic A ; Shirt - A
Braies- A; Chausses B
Belt- A or B-; Coif, felt cap
not is included:
shoes

Complete crusader outfit
€ 453.00
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Re: awesome stuff
« Reply #4 on: 2012-01-05, 19:34:49 »
Good looking stuff. The $700 (USD) price tag, not including shipping, seems rather steep - especially if it's "off the rack" sizing (which I can't tell). I like that they have the option for other colors and/or military orders.
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Re: awesome stuff
« Reply #5 on: 2012-01-09, 19:37:17 »
Oh, this isn't just a pic- someone's offering to make these kits up?  $700 would be good if it were a custom fit...off the rack doesn't always suit me, though.  Still, nice...I've kept a copy for reference.  That's a lot of clothing though...can't imagine it was very comfy during the warmer months.
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Re: awesome stuff
« Reply #6 on: 2012-01-09, 21:47:54 »
Although it`s extremely authentic, I`m surprised there are not more people supplying the hooded, full sleeved tunics. As a Hosptaller my brother has been after one of these for a while now.
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Re: awesome stuff
« Reply #7 on: 2012-01-10, 16:50:46 »
Sir Gerard, if I may posit- I think it might be because w/the full sleeved tunic, you can't see the gorgeous mail armor underneath; not that a Hospitaller would've been concerned w/such, but us contemporaries sure are.  ;)

Although, I do believe MRL's version from KoH was pretty accurate considering...it was a dark, dark brown, full sleeved, full length tunic with strips of mail attached to the skirt partings to make it look like you had on a full mail skirt.
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« Reply #8 on: 2012-01-10, 19:42:45 »
Sir Gerard, if I may posit- I think it might be because w/the full sleeved tunic, you can't see the gorgeous mail armor underneath; not that a Hospitaller would've been concerned w/such, but us contemporaries sure are.  ;)

Although, I do believe MRL's version from KoH was pretty accurate considering...it was a dark, dark brown, full sleeved, full length tunic with strips of mail attached to the skirt partings to make it look like you had on a full mail skirt.

Yes you`re probably right Sir William, why pay out all that hard earned cash on mail just to hide it  ;)
Yes a dark brown one would be better ( and more realistic colour for the medieval dyer to achieve). My Brother has a lovely dark brown cloak but uses a black sleveless surcoat for the moment  ::).

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Re: awesome stuff
« Reply #9 on: 2012-01-10, 21:25:01 »
Black wasn't nearly as prevalent as Hollywood would have us believe, eh?  :)
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Re: awesome stuff
« Reply #10 on: 2012-01-10, 22:49:44 »
Haha, nope, nor the poopstain brown and rubble grey that apparantly covered everything in the medieval period  ;)

I would like to see more painted helms and armour, myself.
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Re: awesome stuff
« Reply #11 on: 2012-01-11, 22:06:46 »
You mean, like this?  One of Toby Capwell's harnesses...this one's retired, actually.  I have a pic of someone else's helm, armor, sword and shield at home...the shield and helm are painted in blue and white swirled....really quite cool; I wanna say Dave Kelly but I could be wrong about that.  He plays Viking/early Norman I think.  I'll see if I can dig it up.

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Re: awesome stuff
« Reply #12 on: 2012-01-12, 01:35:02 »
I believe Mr Capwell's magnificent harness is heat-blued.   But liek painted on heraldry and such.
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Re: awesome stuff
« Reply #13 on: 2012-01-12, 05:54:37 »
I believe Mr Capwell's magnificent harness is heat-blued.   But liek painted on heraldry and such.
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Yep, heat blued with brass details. :drool:

I haven't seen much historical painted armor aside from early period helms and shields. The next closest thing is the "black and white" harnesses from the early firearms periods, which aren't really "white" and just have blackened bits (the ones I've seen). Painted mild steel armor is very practical since it makes maintenance much easier. :)
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Re: awesome stuff
« Reply #14 on: 2012-01-13, 17:14:33 »
I believe Mr Capwell's magnificent harness is heat-blued.   But liek painted on heraldry and such.
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http://www.bouvines1214.org/spip.php?article8&lang=en

Cool link! :)
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