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Sir Wolf:
read the comic and you can find out what happens next ;) hehhehehe

ya being that Shane is a loaner and wants to go off on his own, i'm betting he was just saving his own skin and thought if the zombies had a snack he could get away cleaner.

Sir Brian:

--- Quote from: James Barker on 2011-11-03, 16:56:11 ---If Shane was honorable he could have sacrificed himself and let Otis be the hero.

Overall I felt it was dark, gritty, and selfish which is why that show rules.

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I did not intend to imply that Shane was in anyway honorable. – He certainly isn’t! No, I asked if his actions were honorable. Shane is beyond a doubt an amoral person at best, who for lack of a better example is a cop who sees himself as essentially above the law. He strikes me as someone who not only covets what his best friend has with his family but also his friend’s moral fortitude which he can’t always understand.  :-\

And yes I totally agree the writing for this show is some of the best I’ve ever seen! – It will be interesting to see how long they will allow Rick Grimes his moralistic austerity. I suspect like in the comics the writers will eventually paint him into such a horrendous moral dilemma that will either break him or become a critically defining moment for him.  ;)

Sir William:
I AM the law!  lol

Ian:

--- Quote from: Sir Brian on 2011-11-03, 18:20:15 ---I did not intend to imply that Shane was in anyway honorable. – He certainly isn’t! No, I asked if his actions were honorable. Shane is beyond a doubt an amoral person at best, who for lack of a better example is a cop who sees himself as essentially above the law. He strikes me as someone who not only covets what his best friend has with his family but also his friend’s moral fortitude which he can’t always understand.  :-\

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I still can't accept that his actions were honorable.  Even if we could examine the actions exclusive of the motivation and character of the person taking them, I would still say the act was inherently dishonorable.  I don't necessarily agree that Shane is amoral.  I think some of his actions can be viewed as straight up immoral.  He knows what he does is terrible, he says "I'm sorry" to Otis before he shoots him in the leg.  He shaves his head when he's back at the farm house as if he's stripping away his shame for what he knows was a terrible thing to do. 

He definitely covets what Rick has.  During the first season before Rick's wife and son know that Rick's still alive, Shane is filling Rick's role in the family.  He still wants that.  If Shane's actions with Otis were anything more than self-preservation, I would dare say that his motivation in being the hero and saving Rick's son is to be the hero for Rick's wife, whom I think we can agree he's in love with.  I think Shane is a deeply pained person.  He wants to feel the love that Rick experiences through his family, but he can't stop himself from doing certain things to try to regain what he thinks he used to have with Rick's wife.  It seems like his desire to go off by himself and leave the group are more driven by his inability to cope with what he can't have, not that he's a true loaner.  If anything, he's the exact opposite but feels like it's out of reach for him now.  And by the way, Shane is one of the most interesting characters on the show!  :)

Sir Brian:
Excellent and well expressed discussion that brings a very plausible aspect to Shane's character. I agree that the character Shane is currently one of the more complex players! :)

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