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Joshua Santana

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Re: Knight of the week
« Reply #330 on: 2013-04-02, 23:59:59 »
Sir John,

You did, hahaha! many thanks.  That is agreed, I am still in S. NJ, I will think about it and would much appreciate it.  Just PM me your contact information so I can let you in ahead of time.
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Re: Knight of the week
« Reply #331 on: 2013-04-03, 21:32:30 »
Joshua,

I'm in the Philadelphia area. If you're near Mullica Hill, you could take that bridge then up to route 1, and that sorta takes you very near me. I don't like driving long drives, but I love the PA Ren Faire. Something to think about...and the free admission, and even some money for gas is in the deal.

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Re: Knight of the week
« Reply #332 on: 2013-04-04, 22:44:41 »
Sir John,

Thank you very much.  I think that where everyone here is, it will be one long drive to meet up.  Thank you still.

Joshua (Knight in Training)
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Re: Knight of the week
« Reply #333 on: 2013-05-05, 13:59:49 »
Now that my back is feeling much better and can sit at the computer...I am going to continue with Sir Ulrich von Liechtenstein. I've done a lot of research on him, and next week I will start posting.

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Re: Knight of the week
« Reply #334 on: 2013-05-06, 04:39:17 »
Now that my back is feeling much better and can sit at the computer...I am going to continue with Sir Ulrich von Liechtenstein. I've done a lot of research on him, and next week I will start posting.

Sir John

Excellent. Glad you are feeling better and looking forward to more postings.
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Re: Knight of the week
« Reply #335 on: 2013-05-06, 12:53:32 »
Great news indeed! - Perhaps you can consider a new date for your knighting ceremony? I won't be available until after Mid-June but after that my schedule is wide open.  :)
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Re: Knight of the week
« Reply #336 on: 2013-05-06, 17:42:23 »
Glad you are feeling better Sir John.  :D Now we can continue the forum's history lessons.  8)
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Re: Knight of the week
« Reply #337 on: 2013-05-06, 17:55:08 »
Excellent News!  I am looking forward to reading your research!
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Re: Knight of the week
« Reply #338 on: 2013-05-06, 21:17:04 »
Gentlemen,

I'm still taking it easy with my back...and now it seems my computer is acting up....won't be able to have it checked out till the weekend.

As long as the temps aren't too hot...plus I still have much to finish setting up for my knighting. I'll keep you informed.

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Re: Knight of the week
« Reply #339 on: 2013-05-18, 17:01:32 »
Sir Ulrich von Liechtenstein wrote two books, the first "Frauendienst" is more of an auto biography. So I will start there. I used many sources to put this together, a lot from his writings himself.

Frauendienst:

Ulrich von Liechtenstein (1200–1278) was a medieval ministerialis and minnesinger, author of noted works about how knights and nobles may lead more virtuous lives, and a powerful leader in the 13th century Eastern Alps. He was born in 1200 at Murau in the Duchy of Styria, located in the present-day State of Austria. His family, a cadet branch of the Bavarian Aribonids named after Liechtenstein Castle near Judenburg.

Ulrich is famous for his supposedly autobiographical poetry collection Frauendienst (Service of the Lady). He writes of himself as a protagonist who does great deeds of honor to married noblewomen, following the conventions of chaste courtly love. The protagonist embarks on two remarkable quests. However this is not the first famous tournament of Sir Ulrich for his Lady.

A little about the Lady first and how he became to know her.  Her name was Beatrice II, Countess of Burgundy (House of Hohenstaufen). Born 1191 to: Otto I, Count of Burgundy and Margaret, Countess of Blois. (thereby a granddaughter of Emperor Frederick Barbarossa.) From the time of her father's assassination at Besançon in 1200, she was next-in-line to the County, eventually succeeding Joanna after her death in 1205. Her uncle Philip of Swabia, German king since 1198, had ensured her Burgundian heritage. She was the Countess of Burgundy 1201 – 1231.

Ulrich, at the precocious age of five years (1205), while his favorite amusement was galloping his hobby-horse in the castle court-yard, Ulrich listened eagerly to and treasured in his heart the sayings of his fellow wooden-horsemen, perhaps a year or two older than himself, to the effect that true honor and happiness could be acquired only by faithfully serving a noble and lovely woman, and loving her as one's own life.

On June 21, 1208 (at age 17) Beatrice married Duke Otto of Merania, a member of the Bavarian House of Andechs, by whom she had 6 children. (Otto died in 1234)… The noble family originally resided in southwestern Bavaria at the castle of Niestens near Innsbruck, controlling the road to the March of Verona across the Brenner Pass, at Dießen am Ammersee and Wolfratshausen.

 In 1212: Ulrich von Liechtenstein goes to Niesten Castle and serves as a page to the Countess  Beatrice II. Undaunted by the fact that she is married and much older than he, he is enamored by her.

At the age of seventeen (1217) he goes off to the court of Margrave Henry of Istria (Henry II, 1204–1228, also Margrave of Carniola) son of Duke Berthold IV of Merania, to serve him as his Squire.

In 1220, After four years of such instruction, his father's death called him home to inherit his property, and he spent the next three years (1220-1222) that followed by tourneying in the noviciate of knighthood.

At Vienna, in 1222, during the great festival in celebration of the marriage of Leopold's daughter, he was knighted by Duke Leopold VI of Austria. Here he saw his lady again; Ulrich did not wake from his to do anything so practical as to speak face to face with her, but gaily rode off to a summer of adventure in twelve tournaments, wherein he invariably fared well, thanks to his devotion.

With the last of autumn, Ulrich's spirit grows heavy. He longs to see his lady, he knows that now he would speak to her. There are no tourneys to distract him, he asks that the countess allow him to be an acknowledged but distant and respectful admirer. She lets him know that he is much too ugly to be considered even in the role of a distant admirer, since he has a hairlip.

Ulrich rides off to find the best surgeon in the country, and submit to an operation. But the doctor decides that the time of year is unsuitable; he must wait until winter is past, keep his three lips until May. (1223)

At last spring(1223) comes and Ulrich returns to the doctor. Ulrich describes the discomfort which he experienced during the healing of the wound, in details which give an unpleasant notion of the methods of mediaeval surgery. As he was able to eat and drink scarcely anything, . Finally the lady allowed him to joust in her name, but she wouldn't part with as much as a ribbon for him to carry.

Another summer (1223) passed in tourneying, and during another winter he tried to amuse himself by making poetry for his lady. This time he sent her a more pretentious tribute, his first "Buchlein," a poem of some four hundred lines. The countess told the bearer that she recognized the merit of the poetry, but she would have nothing to do with it.

Summer again (1224), and the lover has diversion in the sports of chivalry. Anyone interested in the details of mediaeval tournaments will find in Ulrich's narrative a valuable and lively record of the tourney held at Friesach in 1224.

(To be continued)
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Re: Knight of the week
« Reply #340 on: 2013-05-27, 13:01:43 »
                Friesach
The Prince Leopold of Austria sent a messenger to the two princes with the request to allow him to mediate between them.  And both agreed that, a day for the action of the princes was convened specifically to Friesach on the day Sancti Philippi (First of May). “When I heard that, I was glad of heart, went to my brother and said, There comes a Friesach to  large amount of men together.  Their chivalry we should consider.  You have a good guess, he replied.  Since we want to create with knights in the forest and all the every day, desires the fight, give him also.  And so you come to us, we want to announce it.  Many will come.  Because then Maytime, to which one is not like at home." Pretty much every decent knight from all over Central Europe came to this tournament.

The tournament began with a haphazard joust between one member of each team in the field between the two armies, and was followed by the melee, the principle event. The two teams would make an initial charge with lances couched. When the lances were broken, one could draw another weapon, including sword and mace, as the weapons used were weapons of war as opposed to abated weapons , which came to be used later in the tournament's history.

First, there were the Prince Leopold and the Margrave of Istria, then Duke Bernhard of Carinthia, Margrave of Diepoldsberg Boheburg, Count Albrecht of Count Meinhard of Tyrol and Gorizia.  Then we saw the Liebenau, one of Heunburg, who arrived with several knights, Count Hermann of places castle. Count Ulrich of Pfannberg was there - then Hugo of Tures and the brothers of Schauenbergstrasse.  Chivalrous found their way to the Domvogt of Regensburg, Mr. Otto of Lengenbach that. Von Auersperg, Konrad Sonneck, Dietmar pot of stone  Of the vassals I call you Hartnid of place Hartnid of Wildon, the exchange of mountain men of Murreck Reinprecht, who came with many knights, Rudolf  Ras, a Königsperg, Hermann of Crane Mountain (Krainverg?) Men Offo and two Henry of Pitten, Heinrich and colleagues from Truhsen (Trixen?), Otto von Graz and his brother Ortolf, a Wolkensteiner, Gundacker of Steyr and his brother Dietmar , Mr Ekkehard of fir, Gundacker of Stark Mountain, Albrecht of NuĂźberg, Hadmar of Kuenring with thirty knights, Wölfelin of Gars, Otto von Schoenkirchen, RĂĽdiger von Antschowe (Anjou), Ulrich von Steunze and of Ottenstein, Hadmar of Schoenberg, the men of hook mountain, Mr. Heinrich of [FuĂźnote]

In addition, about 600 knights were present, and more than ten spiritual masters who wanted to help to settle the dispute. .  Often the knights clashed together so that both fell and lay unconscious on the ground.  The knights were divided into two teams, one led by the Duke of Austria, and the other by The Margrave of Istria.

The Styrian minnesinger Ulrich von Liechtenstein appeared dressed and equipped all in green. His Tabard, horse blanket were made of green velvet, shield, helmet, the 12 spears were grass green.  Green were my servants, the green ceiling of their horses.  I even took a green spear in his hand, and rode to the square. The first day he broke 30 lances.

The next morning, attracted the champions again happy and high-spirited approach.  Since I was already ready with shield and crest apparel. At first I ran to Konrad Sonneck.  He was followed by Mr. Leutold Pettach, the Königsperger and Mr. Ulrich von Steunze.  At these fours I (Ulrich) broke 13 lances. Now came against me Lord Wolfger of Gars, who, like me, spent two lances.  Then I stabbed Men Leupold Lengenbach castle of the helmet from his head - then I retreated to my tent. The Knight's game lasted 10 days. More than 1000 spears broken; probably 150 Knights lost their horses. Ulrich alone broke 53 of his adversaries’ lances.

(The story of Ulrich von Liechtenstein provides us with a very important contrast between the twelfth and thirteenth centuries, and acts as a stepping stone to other developments in the tournament's history. The distinction between joust and tournament emerges clearly in Ulrich’s account of the tournament of Friesach. The brothers Ulrich and Dietmar decided to use the opportunity for a martial game. “Let us both, together with a retinue of knights, lie in foreis, so that anybody who may have the desire, while the assembly of princes lasts, can fight us in knightly fashion.”  This foreis refers to a special form of the tournament, where a single knight or a group of knights take up position outside the camp. This was a challenge to others to try their strength with them in single combat. The Liechtensteiner brothers were so successful that all the knights at the tournament spent the ten days riding jousts (rather than the usual melee) The duke of Carinthia did not like this new form of tournament and put a stop to it.)

                                                 (To be continued)
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Re: Knight of the week
« Reply #341 on: 2013-05-27, 21:14:01 »
That's a lot of detail. Thank you for compiling all of that, Sir John.
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Re: Knight of the week
« Reply #342 on: 2013-05-28, 21:16:33 »
Sir James,

It's my pleasure and contribution to the Order.

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Re: Knight of the week
« Reply #343 on: 2013-05-29, 18:56:52 »
This is still an awesome thread, Sir John.  How're you holding up these days?
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Re: Knight of the week
« Reply #344 on: 2013-05-29, 21:16:47 »
Sir William,

Well my back was doing great, but I had to put in the bedroom a/c (no family or friends to help) and my back is sore again. Now this heat wave  really has me down. Too hot too quick.

Thanks for asking.

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