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Re: Heraldry and Rolls of Arms
« Reply #30 on: 2012-02-09, 21:50:19 »
Ok to do what?

For a long time the rules of SCA Heraldry were you could not register, or be within 3 points of difference of, any 'Real' arms unless you had the legal right to bear them in mundane life for fear of getting in trouble for copyright, trademark, or other infringement.

Well, I don't know how it came about but so long as you are not claiming to be that person or truely descended from them (or some such. I'm not a herald) then you can use any arms you like so long as they are not a direct copy and the 3 points rule is gone for them as well (you still need it for other SCA heraldry).
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Re: Heraldry and Rolls of Arms
« Reply #31 on: 2012-02-09, 22:31:26 »
Ah, understood.  Thanks!
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Re: Heraldry and Rolls of Arms
« Reply #32 on: 2012-04-29, 21:12:28 »
Thank you for sharing Rautt!  This was helpful and is since I will be registering my Heraldric Arms via the SCA.
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Re: Heraldry and Rolls of Arms
« Reply #33 on: 2012-04-29, 21:56:52 »
Nice!

Be prepared to wait, and change them, and wait, and change them.
Mine took a long while to pass and that was 25 years ago.

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Edit: This last line is about me going from 'Ivan Ivanovitch Serebrenikov" to "Torsteinn Raudskeggr". There have been about 6 Torsteinn's in the SCA and none close to my name, but the bureaucratic wheels still turn slow.
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Re: Heraldry and Rolls of Arms
« Reply #34 on: 2012-04-29, 23:42:51 »
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Be prepared to wait, and change them, and wait, and change them.
Mine took a long while to pass and that was 25 years ago.

Even a simple uncontested name change takes 8 months.

Excellent!  Best part is that I am a patient man that can wait a long time (even years) so this to me is a piece of cake.   ;)
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Re: Heraldry and Rolls of Arms
« Reply #35 on: 2012-04-30, 13:28:35 »

Yeah, it does take time. I think mine didn't pass until the following spring, after registering them at Pennsic in August. Seven or eight months sounds about right. I think I did mine in 2008, so it's pretty recent.

I was super lucky. Mine went through on the first shot, which is hard to do with swords and/or dragons, since they're so commonly chosen.
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Re: Heraldry and Rolls of Arms
« Reply #36 on: 2012-04-30, 16:08:49 »
Nice!

Be prepared to wait, and change them, and wait, and change them.
Mine took a long while to pass and that was 25 years ago.

Even a simple uncontested name change takes 8 months.


Edit: This last line is about me going from 'Ivan Ivanovitch Serebrenikov" to "Torsteinn Raudskeggr". There have been about 6 Torsteinn's in the SCA and none close to my name, but the bureaucratic wheels still turn slow.

He speaks the painfull truth.  My name and arms are still not registered after four submissions.  :o
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Re: Heraldry and Rolls of Arms
« Reply #37 on: 2012-04-30, 21:04:34 »
Lord Rodney: do try to be patient, why not email them to see if it is going through the process?  That should should help.

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