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Main => The Round Table => Topic started by: Sir Brian on 2009-06-16, 21:24:12
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I was speaking to a vendor at a renaissance faire recently, both the location of the fair and the name
of the vendor is deliberately withheld.
I was wearing my harness and he had mentioned that he liked my belt buckle, which I readily endorsed
Raymond’s quiet press from whence it came. I also pointed out to the person that my spurs had also
come from the same place. The person replied that they were nice but he wasn’t impressed with the
way spurs in general are made because they were made wrong. Curious, I asked why and he in all
seriousness informed me that they are suppose to be bent outwards more because most people
incorrectly thought that spurs were meant to be used on the horse when they were actually meant to
be used as a weapon by the knight to kick out and backwards to attacking footmen if they were to
press in on the knight! – WHAT? :o
I was hard-pressed to keep a straight face as I politely pointed out that Raymond’s Quiet Press basis
for his designs were off of actual archaeological samples. The person removed any doubts to him
making those preposterous assumptions out of fun when he continued with the debate by further
stating that was the reason for them becoming longer in the later middle ages and also the reason why they started adding exaggerated and pointy toes on the sabatons…to be used as a weapon…well sure they could be utilized that way…but…but...at the point I politely withdrew from the debate. ;)
Anyways, I have heard some pretty absurd assumptions before, but that has to be one of the more
ridiculous ones. ;D
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That's an.. uhm... interesting theory! If they were even bigger, I suppose the knight could use them to fly, and really walk on air! :)
Of course, there's nothing to stop you from kicking someone with your spurs, but I've never heard of them being angled outward for the sole purpose of doing so.
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thats bull. and i bet the same person thinks that all of Xena Warrior Princess's clothes were period. sabs were longer cause it was the fashion. the shoes under neath them were called pullains(sp?) and were worn to show wealth and status. you can't kick with spurs! you don't even sit in a saddle during the "high medieval age" you more or less stand up. (its kinda awkward) (smacks forehead) this is why I hate people who speak out of their butts hehehe
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Yep, the spurs require the legs pressed in close to the horse, and allow for subtle motions that the horse can feel. Kicking with them would be quite awkward.
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I remember last season at MDRF when I was in my harness wearing what are now your prick spurs
Sir Wolf and I was answering some patrons questions when one man commented about the spurs and
said they could be used as a weapon if I kicked backwards. At the time I assumed he meant me
personally while at the faire in these modern times, but since that more recent discussion with that
vendor I now have to wonder if that patron was under the misconception that was their intended
purpose for a knight to wear them. ???
Typically when I get questions concerning spurs I try to relay the distinction between the metals of
the spurs. ~ i.e. Gold for knights, Silver for Squires and Iron for Men-at-Arms.
I suppose I now should also mention that they were meant exclusively for the horse and not as a last
resort weapon! ;)
Personally I get a chuckle visualizing two dismounted knights locked in mortal combat while all their weapons
are either broken or lost, circling each other warily like two bipedal game cocks looking for an opening to get
a good strike in with their deadly sharpened spurs all while the music from that original Star Trek episode
battle scene when Spock and Kirk were locked in mortal combat plays in the background...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX3KsHDZ1sE&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX3KsHDZ1sE&feature=related)
:D
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Weapons? Then why did knights even bother carrying swords?
O! That's right! For firewood! ;D
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Personally I get a chuckle visualizing two dismounted knights locked in mortal combat while all their weapons
are either broken or lost, circling each other warily like two bipedal game cocks looking for an opening to get
a good strike in with their deadly sharpened spurs all while the music from that original Star Trek episode
battle scene when Spock and Kirk were locked in mortal combat plays in the background...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX3KsHDZ1sE&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nX3KsHDZ1sE&feature=related)
Oh, now THAT's too funny! I can picture it now--
Officiator: "Men, choose your weapons!"
Fighter 1: "I choose the deadly spurs!"
Fighter 2: "I too will use the deadly spurs!"
Officiator: "Lay on!"
They then begin to circle, hopping on one foot, keeping the other at the ready and looking for an opening.
:)
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lol!
You do realize that I will have to insist the next time we get together in garb we'll
have to get a picture of us two trying to "spur" each other!
HEY if we can get all of us at once we can have a grand melee! :D
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Yes, I think a picture would be hilarious!
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cock fight for sure!
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cock fight for sure!
uh oh! ~ Why am I suddenly very afraid when that particularly worded suggestion comes from Sir Wolf! ;)
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I am SO not touching THAT one!!!! ;)
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Well, my new spurs finally arrived, so I'll be all set for the next photo session!
Too funny. :)
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bock-bock
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(http://modernchivalry.org/images/deadlyspurs.jpg)
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:D :D :D LMMFAO
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Now we need to write a spurfechten treatise. :)
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Treatise be damned! Didn't you know that the taller combatant kicks first to start the bout? :D
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Bummer for those that are vertically "challenged"! :D
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That's an.. uhm... interesting theory! If they were even bigger, I suppose the knight could use them to fly, and really walk on air! :)
Of course, there's nothing to stop you from kicking someone with your spurs, but I've never heard of them being angled outward for the sole purpose of doing so.
And to think ... all this time I thought they were for 4-wheeling & doing neat tricks on my heals. :)
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There's a joke involving Wheel Kicks and the One True Knight Chuck Norris here somewhere.
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Mm-hmm. 4 out of 5 docs agree. The one who disagreed with Chuck learned his lesson. ;)
What's funnier is this is the first time I've ever seen this thread and I'd thought I'd browsed them all. Sir Brian, any chance you'll let on which illustrious vendor that was?
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Nay Sir William, he was a friend working for the primary vendor at KYRF and I wouldn't wish to unduly embarrass the vendor since he occasionally sets up at VARF and other fairs and this is a public forum. I only happen to see him and his lady on one other occasion when they were just regular patrons @ the GLMF a couple of years ago. ;)
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Nay Sir William, he was a friend working for the primary vendor at KYRF and I wouldn't wish to unduly embarrass the vendor since he occasionally sets up at VARF and other fairs and this is a public forum. I only happen to see him and his lady on one other occasion when they were just regular patrons @ the GLMF a couple of years ago. ;)
If you see him, invite him to our longsword demos at VARF, and we'll be sure to include some spur-fighting techniques. :D
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Nay Sir William, he was a friend working for the primary vendor at KYRF and I wouldn't wish to unduly embarrass the vendor since he occasionally sets up at VARF and other fairs and this is a public forum. I only happen to see him and his lady on one other occasion when they were just regular patrons @ the GLMF a couple of years ago. ;)
If you see him, invite him to our longsword demos at VARF, and we'll be sure to include some spur-fighting techniques. :D
Only if we do it while wearing the Monty Python surcoats to give it the 'proper' prestige! ;D
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A bunch of armored knights throwing reverse wheel kicks to make use of the spur as an offensive weapon just brought a hilarious picture to mind!