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Title: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir Gerard de Rodes on 2011-08-31, 14:17:38
At long last, as promised, here are a few photo`s of some of my earlier, maille based, armour outfits. 12th century Crusader to late 13th century knight. ( Photo bucket has uploaded them in reverse order lmao  :o )
Before all the comments roll in......yes I know there are a few bits missing, and a few bits that maybe don`t work, but you get the overall look.
As I don`t do any earlier than mid 14th century any more, I sold alot of my earlier items of kit, e.g. Leather gauntlets, Wisby style gauntlets etc etc. ( I`m beginning to regret it now  ::) )

G.

http://s230.photobucket.com/albums/ee200/JOBO_028/De%20Rodes12th%20to%20late13th%20century%20armour/?action=view&current=049.jpg# (http://s230.photobucket.com/albums/ee200/JOBO_028/De%20Rodes12th%20to%20late13th%20century%20armour/?action=view&current=049.jpg#)

 :P
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2011-08-31, 14:34:03
wow cool!!!!!

awesome pictures
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-08-31, 14:38:41

Looking great! I love the painted helm. We just don't see too many of those (either painted, or those pre-great-helm crusades helmets).
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-08-31, 14:44:53
The variations of your 12th ~ 13th centuries harnesses are excellent Sir Gerard! Thank you for sharing them with us and continuing to be a great inspiration for us all!  :)
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir Gerard de Rodes on 2011-08-31, 16:22:36
wow cool!!!!!

awesome pictures

Thanks, Sir Wolf. I wanted to take them in a historic setting but grew too impatient so the living room had to do.

Looking great! I love the painted helm. We just don't see too many of those (either painted, or those pre-great-helm crusades helmets).

Yes Sir Ed, I`ve always liked the intimidating look of the pot helms, and they are relatively inexpensive to buy. The group I used to be with, specialised in the 13th century so encouraged this style of helm. A chap in the group made both of my pot helms for £40 each.

The variations of your 12th ~ 13th centuries harnesses are excellent Sir Gerard! Thank you for sharing them with us and continuing to be a great inspiration for us all!  :)

Thank you for your kind words Sir Brian.

G.
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir Rodney on 2011-08-31, 17:02:48
Very nice!  :)
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2011-08-31, 17:47:13
ahhahah i have a lot of living room historical pictures myself!
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir William on 2011-08-31, 18:26:16
You certainly look the part, Sir Gerard.  I love the Crusader kit; those helms are very imposing looking- me likey!  You look rough and ready, man.
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir Ulrich on 2011-08-31, 21:32:20
I like it, crusader kits seem to just be getting more and more common. Who knows maybe we'll all be crusaders at some point and be like the Knights Templar or something. Always wanted to be part of an order of crusader knights.
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir William on 2011-08-31, 21:44:26
Funny you should say so, Ulrich...I ran into this one on my way into MDRF last year (just before I had the pleasure of meeting Sirs Edward and Brian).  As you can see, I am not pleased to be holding an empty scabbard.  And you can see the formings of a bingo wing there too.  Ugh.
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv64/ebonpaladin/Armor/Templarsin2010.jpg)

First meeting of the Knights of the Order of the Marshal (long before they ever knew there would be such a grand order):
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv64/ebonpaladin/Armor/DSC00786.jpg)

There's Sir Brian; you couldn't see him in the first shot.  He was a Teutonic Knight on that day, and Edward was a nobleman.
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv64/ebonpaladin/Armor/DSC00785.jpg)

Sorry to jack your thread, Sir Gerard- if you want me to take them down let me know.   8)
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir Gerard de Rodes on 2011-08-31, 22:50:50
lol no worries Sir William.
 ;)
G.
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Leganoth on 2011-09-01, 04:00:01
lol Sir G i dont think tvs and giant speakers were available back then :P but i do like the kits, but personally never been a fan of those great helms (like the one you painted) those just seem ugly to me, i like the bucket helms better :)
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir William on 2011-09-01, 13:46:28
Leganoth, those helms were meant to inspire fear not love...so that they should be ugly is a good thing!

Sir G, I'm digging the figurines in the background- totally missed those my first run thru of the pics!
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir James A on 2011-09-01, 18:14:54
Great kids, Sir Gerard. Is there ever a time we don't regret selling good armor? :)
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir Gerard de Rodes on 2011-09-01, 22:12:01
lol Sir G i dont think tvs and giant speakers were available back then :P but i do like the kits, but personally never been a fan of those great helms (like the one you painted) those just seem ugly to me, i like the bucket helms better :)
I know what you mean though a well made example can look the mutts nutts.
Leganoth, those helms were meant to inspire fear not love...so that they should be ugly is a good thing!

Sir G, I'm digging the figurines in the background- totally missed those my first run thru of the pics!
Typical holiday presents from friends and family. At least I`m not awkward to buy for lol  ::)

Great kids, Sir Gerard. Is there ever a time we don't regret selling good armor? :)

It`s hard enough for me parting with bad armour, never mind the good stuff  ;)

G.
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-09-02, 13:32:31
It`s hard enough for me parting with bad armour, never mind the good stuff  ;)

I get that way with my swords. The armor is sometimes different. If I'm not using something at all, I let it go pretty easily. I got rid of a full set of mail and a breast+back set this past year already. And sold my sugarloaf to Sir William too.
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir James A on 2011-09-02, 20:17:42
Great kids, Sir Gerard. Is there ever a time we don't regret selling good armor? :)

Looking back, I believe I meant *kits* and not *kids*. Oops!
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir Patrick on 2011-09-03, 01:46:17
Very nice kits!  Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: John on 2011-09-05, 09:44:01
I too got rid of a sugar loaf recently. It had poor vision, and found myself being bit of a menace to others because I'd flail wildly with my sword in the hope that I might either hit, or block, something. It's now a club helm, for people who want to be moving targets for archers :).
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir William on 2011-09-06, 17:22:45
The one I got from you, Sir Edward, will shortly be going up for sale.  I've decided I'd rather have either a great helm, or a sugarloaf with lifting visor.  AA is like a candy store for the likes of us...some of the armor I've seen is incredible.
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-09-06, 18:19:07

Heh cool, no problem. :)

It would be interesting if there were a way to track the travels of specific pieces of armor, as it passes from one owner to the next over the years. The stories it could tell.
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-09-06, 18:40:19
The one I got from you, Sir Edward, will shortly be going up for sale.  I've decided I'd rather have either a great helm, or a sugarloaf with lifting visor.  AA is like a candy store for the likes of us...some of the armor I've seen is incredible.

Does that mean you are possible interested again in my visored sugarloaf helm now that I've added spring pins for locking the visor up and down?  ;)
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir James A on 2011-09-06, 18:54:27
The one I got from you, Sir Edward, will shortly be going up for sale.  I've decided I'd rather have either a great helm, or a sugarloaf with lifting visor.  AA is like a candy store for the likes of us...some of the armor I've seen is incredible.

I know a guy who'd buy that helmet. ;)
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir William on 2011-09-06, 19:10:50
Sir Brian, yes, I would like to get a closer look at it.

Sir James, who?
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir James A on 2011-09-06, 19:22:03
Sir James, who?

Sir James. :D
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir William on 2011-09-06, 20:03:04
Ha!  In that case, I'll bring it with me to the next gathering...just let me know when.
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir James A on 2011-09-07, 17:28:32
Ha!  In that case, I'll bring it with me to the next gathering...just let me know when.

Will do, and, huzzah! :)
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2011-09-07, 17:39:44
huh?  8)
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir William on 2011-09-07, 19:02:38
Sir Brian...could you point me to where your pics are located for that sugarloaf?
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-09-08, 08:02:59
Well here it is with the new spring pins and chin strap. I'm not entirely satisfied with how
the open retaining spring pin works but I haven't revisited this helm since I did the initial
installation job, so I will have to tweak it a bit more.  :-\
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Tah908/WIP/P9080004-1.jpg)
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Tah908/WIP/P9080001.jpg)
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Tah908/WIP/P9080002.jpg)

Spring pin close-ups.
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Tah908/WIP/P6100003.jpg)
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Tah908/WIP/P6100001.jpg)
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2011-09-08, 12:22:14
why arent you happy with your fix? looks like you did a good job
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir William on 2011-09-08, 14:01:30
I would say so as well!  Is that a removable face plate?
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-09-08, 14:21:52
why arent you happy with your fix? looks like you did a good job

Well the closed retention pin works almost a little too well but still acceptable. The opened retention pin is still too difficult to push in so I may add another rivet midway between the pin and mounting post for an actuator.  :-\

I would say so as well!  Is that a removable face plate?

Unfortunately no, it would have made working on it much easier if it was!  ;)
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir William on 2011-09-08, 15:33:42
Oh, got you.  Well, I'd still like to take a look at it...altho eventually I'll end up with a bascinet with a removable so I can use different 'faces' with it.
Title: Re: De Rodes during the 12th to late 13th centuries
Post by: Sir Gerard de Rodes on 2013-04-15, 09:37:00
Crusaderfacerx,
are these the ones you pm'd me about?
G.