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Title: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Bernarr on 2012-05-27, 03:33:21
So, I heard back from a few armorers about the Wisby gauntlets, based on this design-
http://www.bestarmour.com/gauntlets/gauntlets_30b.jpg (http://www.bestarmour.com/gauntlets/gauntlets_30b.jpg)  (Gauntlets RG 7.1)

My first choice got back to me as well, and since a few others were talking about looking for Wisby's I figured I'd share with you all! Especially since Jolly Knight gave me permission to post here  ;D
I'm just copying the relevant parts you need from our emails-

Mild steel = 250EUR
Spring or stainless steel = 320EUR
Choice of leather color

Production time is about 1 month since prepayment.
As a rule I start my work after prepayment (about 30% from the total cost).
Delivery time about 2 weeks.

Measurements needed:
Scan  of  your hand with ruler would be good, and circumference of your wrist.
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's?
Post by: Joshua Santana on 2012-05-27, 15:53:39
Excellent!  ;D
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's?
Post by: Sir Brian on 2012-05-29, 13:04:13
Huzzah! Excellent and thanks for posting this because I really like his design! Man I just ordered a Talhoffer too! Maybe near the end of the summer I can get a pair ordered!  :-\
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's?
Post by: Joshua Santana on 2012-05-29, 18:05:47
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Huzzah! Excellent and thanks for posting this because I really like his design! Man I just ordered a Talhoffer too! Maybe near the end of the summer I can get a pair ordered!

Take your time Sir Brian, lest we all run out of monies and be poor knights ourselves.   ;)
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's?
Post by: Bernarr on 2012-07-05, 23:28:15
Mmm.. progress pics!
http://www.vaevictis.co/cgi-bin/emAlbum.cgi?cmd=show_thumbs&path=WisbyGauntlets&tn=1 (http://www.vaevictis.co/cgi-bin/emAlbum.cgi?cmd=show_thumbs&path=WisbyGauntlets&tn=1)

No thumbnails yet, it's too hot to sit at my desk till the AC is crankin, I'll fix it later!
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2012-07-07, 02:43:16
wow very very cool!!!!!!!!! impressed!
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Sir James A on 2012-07-07, 23:57:34
Looks good so far
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's?
Post by: Ian on 2012-07-08, 17:48:10
Mmm.. progress pics!
http://www.vaevictis.co/cgi-bin/emAlbum.cgi?cmd=show_thumbs&path=WisbyGauntlets&tn=1 (http://www.vaevictis.co/cgi-bin/emAlbum.cgi?cmd=show_thumbs&path=WisbyGauntlets&tn=1)

Looks great!  What material did you end up deciding on?  Are these spring or mild?
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2012-07-08, 18:08:58
Some day when I have the cash I will get some finger gauntlets.
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Bernarr on 2012-07-08, 20:15:28
Ian- I went with spring steel and black leather. I can't wait till they're done!
Which reminds me.. a question for anyone who has sewn their own gloves to their gauntlets, any suggestions on what type of thread to use?
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2012-07-08, 20:20:03
Artificial sinew or waxen linen.
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Ian on 2012-07-08, 20:44:27
Ian- I went with spring steel and black leather. I can't wait till they're done!

Awesome!  Spring is well worth the additional cost. I think you'll be very pleased.
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Bernarr on 2012-07-08, 20:52:31
Thanks Thorsteinn! I looked at both, waxed linen was 25#, but the artificial sinew was available in 70# strength, so that's what I grabbed! I doubt I'll need to order more any time soon, found a 450' roll for $12.25 shipped
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Bernarr on 2012-08-24, 07:25:38
Just one new progress pic-
http://www.vaevictis.co/cgi-bin/emAlbum.cgi?cmd=show_image&path=WisbyGauntlets&img=8&tn=1 (http://www.vaevictis.co/cgi-bin/emAlbum.cgi?cmd=show_image&path=WisbyGauntlets&img=8&tn=1)
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Ian on 2012-08-24, 14:09:32
Those are going to come out very nice!
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Allan Senefelder on 2012-08-24, 17:09:40
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Which reminds me.. a question for anyone who has sewn their own gloves to their gauntlets, any suggestions on what type of thread to use?


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Artificial sinew or waxen linen.

Either of these will work ( regular thread is not up to the job ) but they are both a little " slippery " especially the waxed twine. I've found that the knots can occasionally work them selves loose( I cut my thread close atto the knot so theres not a long tail of thread ).  A little dot of super glue on your knots will keep them closed perfectly.
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Bernarr on 2012-09-06, 07:22:23
Thanks for the superglue tip Allan, I'll have to remember that one!

They certainly are Ian, he sent over some more progress pics, he just has the fingers left to finish up-
http://www.vaevictis.co/cgi-bin/emAlbum.cgi?cmd=show_thumbs&path=WisbyGauntlets&tn=1 (http://www.vaevictis.co/cgi-bin/emAlbum.cgi?cmd=show_thumbs&path=WisbyGauntlets&tn=1)
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Sir William on 2012-09-06, 18:51:11
Wow...nice progress pics, can't wait to see the finished product.
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Jolly Knight on 2012-11-11, 23:58:57
Here are the finished product.
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Ian on 2012-11-12, 03:10:49
Those look outstanding.  Fantastic work!  Congrats on the purchase Bernarr.
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2012-11-12, 04:17:17
Whats been found to be the best padding for the fingers? I've heard good things about sorbothane, mouse pad, & felted wool but hardly much about hardly else.
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Sir Brian on 2012-11-13, 01:50:21
Wow! Beautiful work! I really need to get on your lists for a pair Jolly Knight!  :)

Congratulations Bernarr! btw what type of glove are you going to stitch in there?
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Sir James A on 2012-11-13, 02:18:01
Great work Jolly!
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Sir Edward on 2012-11-13, 14:35:45

Awesome, they look great!
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Sir Gerard de Rodes on 2012-11-13, 17:53:42
Very smart  ;)
G.
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Bernarr on 2012-11-17, 05:23:47
Ian- Thanks! I can't wait to get them  :D

Sir Brian- Not sure now, the gloves I was going to pick up are apparently a discontinued item now, so I need to find something else. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Lord Dane on 2012-11-17, 09:52:49
I love the studded leather work around the wrist. Looks like you extended the cuff for better protection.
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Bernarr on 2012-11-17, 10:34:53
Lord Dane, they're splinted, not studded! Earlier shot showing the splints here-
http://www.vaevictis.co/cgi-bin/emAlbum.cgi?cmd=show_image&path=WisbyGauntlets&img=8&tn=1 (http://www.vaevictis.co/cgi-bin/emAlbum.cgi?cmd=show_image&path=WisbyGauntlets&img=8&tn=1)
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Sir Brian on 2012-11-18, 01:41:42
Ian- Thanks! I can't wait to get them  :D

Sir Brian- Not sure now, the gloves I was going to pick up are apparently a discontinued item now, so I need to find something else. Any suggestions?

Well doeskin will not only be very comfortable it is also very resilient.

This link has both lined and unlined gauntlets at a nice price.  :)
http://www.leatherglovesonline.com/np/search.php?searchfor=deerskin&gclid=COqc79Ot17MCFQJx4AodESwAaw (http://www.leatherglovesonline.com/np/search.php?searchfor=deerskin&gclid=COqc79Ot17MCFQJx4AodESwAaw)
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Bernarr on 2012-11-18, 03:47:40
I found something similar to the ones I was going to get while I was at home this morning, so I ordered them. They're the deerskin gauntlets on this page-
http://www.ironbraid.com/Leather-Gloves.html (http://www.ironbraid.com/Leather-Gloves.html)
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Sir Brian on 2012-11-18, 11:22:17
Excellent find! I'll have to remember these when I put my gauntlets on order!  :)
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Bernarr on 2012-11-20, 12:17:11
So my gloves should be here tomorrow, and I got my gauntlets yesterday! Anyone have a good guide on how to pad/attach said gloves to gauntlets? I've never had to do this myself before, but it's about time I learned..
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Ian on 2012-11-20, 14:01:35
As far as I know 'padding' is an SCA thing in gauntlets and is not historical.  So, depending on your intended use, you can just skip padding.  Here are closeups of my hourglass gauntlet/glove attachment stitches.  Wisby and hourglass gauntlets should be very similar in glove attachment since the fingers are of similar construction.  Strips of leather are riveted to the inside of each finger, and then the glove is sewn on both sides of the finger along the edges of the top half of each digit.  Then a smaller piece of leather is attached at the back of the metacarpal area as seen below.  If you wanted to add inconspicuous 'padding' of sorts, some people insert layers of felt in between the leather and glove along the fingers:

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8485/8203191080_c8a66bb52a_z.jpg)

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8349/8202099491_ddc44b78e3_z.jpg)
Title: Re: Jolly Wisby's!
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2012-11-20, 19:18:31
IIRC padding has been found in some gauntlets (felted wool mostly) going back a long ways. I know I wouldn't want to go to battle without a little insurance. ;)


Damn those are sexy.