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Title: The Fall of Arthur, J.r.r. Tolkien.
Post by: Sir Nate on 2013-10-23, 19:29:01
Im doing a Report on j.r.r. Tolkien and while researching him, I found this which I had no Idea existed.
He was writing it before even the hobbit, but didn't finish it.
Title: Re: The Fall of Arthur, J.r.r. Tolkien.
Post by: Sir William on 2013-10-23, 19:56:03
Wow...I'm a huge fan of his and never heard of this one; it is probably the one written work of his that I haven't read.
Title: Re: The Fall of Arthur, J.r.r. Tolkien.
Post by: Sir Nate on 2013-10-24, 01:20:05
Ive only read the Hobbit, and Fellowship so far, but I definetly need to read this, im a huge tolkien a arthurian fan.
Title: Re: The Fall of Arthur, J.r.r. Tolkien.
Post by: Sir Douglas on 2013-10-24, 01:35:49
I believe this one actually just came out within the past year. How many other authors are still having new books published 40 years after their death. ;)
Title: Re: The Fall of Arthur, J.r.r. Tolkien.
Post by: Sir Nate on 2013-10-24, 01:45:59
Abraham?
lol no one really.
Title: Re: The Fall of Arthur, J.r.r. Tolkien.
Post by: Sir Edward on 2013-10-24, 14:00:27

It looks like it's a project that JRR Tolkien never finished, but his son has edited together:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/23/books/review/the-fall-of-arthur-by-j-r-r-tolkien.html?_r=0 (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/23/books/review/the-fall-of-arthur-by-j-r-r-tolkien.html?_r=0)
Title: Re: The Fall of Arthur, J.r.r. Tolkien.
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2013-10-24, 14:54:54
i am adding to my want list.
Title: Re: The Fall of Arthur, J.r.r. Tolkien.
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2013-10-24, 14:57:24
The Children of Húrin
The Legend of Sigurd and Gudrun

are both on my want list now too
Title: Re: The Fall of Arthur, J.r.r. Tolkien.
Post by: Sir Nate on 2013-10-24, 19:01:08
christmas gift.
Title: Re: The Fall of Arthur, J.r.r. Tolkien.
Post by: Sir William on 2013-10-25, 15:40:15
There's a collection of his short stories that my Mom had on the bookshelf (along with LOTR and the Hobbit) that I read and re-read a number of times; less fantasy and seemed more in the vein of old English folk tales (Farmer Gilles of Ham, for instance was one of them) which I did enjoy.  Was also reading the Narnia books at the time.  Good memories.

I've managed to cobble together most of the Tolkien reference books that dealt with the behind the scenes stuff with LOTR and of course, the elder tales as well as the Silmarillion (that was a difficult one to get thru, reads more like a genealogy crossed with a Bible of sorts, very indepth).  The man was an amazing fantasy writer, to be sure. 

I have to say that I found 'Unfinished Tales of Numenor...' to be one of my favorites of his work; the mythology surrounding Middle Earth is astounding once you get a grasp on it.  Some would say that a lot of the 'beginning' times are formulaic and unoriginal but I disagree.  I mean sure, there's elements of our own mythology (the pantheon of gods, the creation of the heavens and the earth mirror that of Norse mythology etc, etc) but so what?  He gave it a new take that I found engaging and it held my interest all the way to the end.

I just added this book, Children of Hurin (which is covered in part in the Unfinished Tales iirc) and Unfinished Tales to my Kindle wish list.
Title: Re: The Fall of Arthur, J.r.r. Tolkien.
Post by: Sir Matthew on 2013-11-01, 22:38:25
I really liked Silmarillion and read it several times. I have 4 of the 9 books that are the behind the scenes books like Unfinished Tales, most of the content of these are writing collected by Christopher Tolkien and assembled to form "books". If I remember correctly, some of the later chapters in the Silmarillion were much the same. I did a report in High School comparing Robert Jordan's Wheel of Time to Tolkien's The Hobbit and Lord of the Rings. Got a really good grade, my teacher liked it and told me she would have to find the Wheel of Time books because based on my report they sounded excellent (which they are).
Title: Re: The Fall of Arthur, J.r.r. Tolkien.
Post by: Sir Nate on 2013-11-02, 14:22:35
I have the children of Hurin on my shelve, I had started reading the lost tales part 1 but it got stolen at school. I've misplaced the part 2, i need to get the silmarillion.
Title: Re: The Fall of Arthur, J.r.r. Tolkien.
Post by: Don Jorge on 2013-11-05, 00:42:28
I love the Simirillion, LOTR and the Hobbit! I have been meaning to read some more of the Background books but haven't had much time...there are also some excellent reference books that break down Tolkien like an encyclopedia...I will check my library when I get home for the names :)

Oh i forgot i had this picture...some of the titles are blurry (like that thick beige book on the left that is a encylopedia of term in middle earth lore)
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e256/belemrys/001.jpg) (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/belemrys/media/001.jpg.html)


Found the title!
(http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e256/belemrys/002-2.jpg) (http://s41.photobucket.com/user/belemrys/media/002-2.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The Fall of Arthur, J.r.r. Tolkien.
Post by: Sir Douglas on 2013-11-05, 03:45:17
Nice Tolkien library!

I have both the Silmarillion and the Legend of Sigurd and Gudrun, but haven't gotten around to reading either of them yet. Frankly, the Silmarillion looks kind of intimidating; I've heard it can be a tough read like Sir William said. Legend looks really good though.
Title: Re: The Fall of Arthur, J.r.r. Tolkien.
Post by: Sir William on 2013-11-05, 16:43:45
Looks like the Fall of Arthur is to be written in the form of a long running poem; I feel my interest flagging already.
Title: Re: The Fall of Arthur, J.r.r. Tolkien.
Post by: Sir Nate on 2013-11-05, 22:02:11
beowulf was a poem.
maybe Tolkien sorta had that in mind when writing this.
Title: Re: The Fall of Arthur, J.r.r. Tolkien.
Post by: Sir William on 2013-11-06, 19:29:19
Nice Tolkien library!

I have both the Silmarillion and the Legend of Sigurd and Gudrun, but haven't gotten around to reading either of them yet. Frankly, the Silmarillion looks kind of intimidating; I've heard it can be a tough read like Sir William said. Legend looks really good though.

The Silmarillion reads much like the Bible does- and I've read that extensively in my youth so I haven't retained all that I've read, but the overall tone I still carry with me.  Not to mention the layout.  Still, if you can get through it, the Sil is incredibly in-depth...I'd even venture to say that the reference books that are largely put together by his son got their start from the texts that ultimately became the Sil.

And I did not actually read Beowulf, not in its original form...I read an Anglicized version that was more story than poem (I don't like rhymes, the use of different meters et al, never have) which made it more palatable for me.
Title: Re: The Fall of Arthur, J.r.r. Tolkien.
Post by: Sir Douglas on 2013-11-07, 00:08:27
You don't like to rhyme?
Is it really that bad?
It should be a crime,
To see rhymes and feel sad!

Sorry, couldn't help myself. ;) I'm not big on poetry, either....in case my lousy poem didn't make that obvious. That might be why I haven't read Sigurd and Gudrun yet. That, or I'm just really lazy when it comes to reading.
Title: Re: The Fall of Arthur, J.r.r. Tolkien.
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2013-12-02, 15:35:18
haahha i read beowulf. a couple of different versions. once had the original on the left page and the actual translation on the right page. that was hard. ehehe