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Main => The Armoury => Topic started by: Stanislaw on 2014-03-22, 21:36:39
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So, I've been working on an Allthebeststuff coif, adding a custom ventail to it made with some rings cut from what used to be a large part of the aventail. I haven't added a heavy linen liner to it yet, because my heavyweight linen thread has not arrived yet, but here's how it currently looks:
(http://i.gyazo.com/132162a939c8c5b5dce2279369b602f6.png)
(http://i.gyazo.com/9c6689407b189c485a651b01cdf29316.png)
(And yes, I have an enormous head! :P The GDFB coif I have on just adds to the size. I'm really glad that I ordered a 27 inch helm! My old Rus' helm doesn't even fit on this monstrosity.)
I'm really starting to like the look of it, and am surprised at how much it already resembles coifs from numerous effigies and other art.
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If anyone's wondering why the ventail is somewhat "lopsided" looking, that is because I didn't point the leather thread through all of the maille rings I could have in those pics. What I essentially do is I point two leather tie ends to the ventail, which is partially attached to a strip of maille that I added to the bottom of the facial opening, and then wrap one end around the coif to achieve the "globular" look. I then return to the front of the ventail, where I point and tie both ends repeatedly, vertically up the ventail, until everything looks right. This method is actually extremely secure - jumping and running around does nothing to shift it.
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Looking cool I must say :)
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Looking cool I must say :)
Thanks! ;D
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can you lay your coif flat on the table?
what i worry about is that the expanding method on these new coifs has been over done or outta whack a little. the rows of rings should layer perfectly horizontal to each other and not at odd angles.
are you going to attach this to your hauberk? i would personally put the coif of first then the hauberk or at the very least wear the surcoat over the mantle area. if not i would get some rings and add to the mantle. it looks like it's in the inbetween stage of being done and almost there.
other than that it looks cool man. great start. light years above the 14 guage galv butted coif i started with :)
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can you lay your coif flat on the table?
what i worry about is that the expanding method on these new coifs has been over done or outta whack a little. the rows of rings should layer perfectly horizontal to each other and not at odd angles.
are you going to attach this to your hauberk? i would personally put the coif of first then the hauberk or at the very least wear the surcoat over the mantle area. if not i would get some rings and add to the mantle. it looks like it's in the inbetween stage of being done and almost there.
other than that it looks cool man. great start. light years above the 14 guage galv butted coif i started with :)
Sure, I'll get a pic of it when I'm a bit more awake.
Funny you should mention hauberk attachment, because that thought ran through my head today... I'm tempted to do it. I'd have to weigh the pros and cons of it, in any case.
And thanks! I actually enjoy riveting maille. It's tedious, yeah, but it's not boring.
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Stanislaw,
I’m also looking at All Best Stuff for a riveted aventail. What size rings did you go with (9 MM?). Were you able to pick up loose rings and a tool from them as well?
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Stanislaw,
I’m also looking at All Best Stuff for a riveted aventail. What size rings did you go with (9 MM?). Were you able to pick up loose rings and a tool from them as well?
The coif I have here is made of 8mm 17 gauge rings. Kindly enough, Sir Ulrich lent me his dome riveting tool and a bunch of spare links and rivets to use to attach the parts of the aventail that I cut down and modified. If they sell riveting tools, I'm not aware of it.
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can you lay your coif flat on the table?
what i worry about is that the expanding method on these new coifs has been over done or outta whack a little. the rows of rings should layer perfectly horizontal to each other and not at odd angles.
are you going to attach this to your hauberk? i would personally put the coif of first then the hauberk or at the very least wear the surcoat over the mantle area. if not i would get some rings and add to the mantle. it looks like it's in the inbetween stage of being done and almost there.
other than that it looks cool man. great start. light years above the 14 guage galv butted coif i started with :)
Sure, I'll get a pic of it when I'm a bit more awake.
Funny you should mention hauberk attachment, because that thought ran through my head today... I'm tempted to do it. I'd have to weigh the pros and cons of it, in any case.
And thanks! I actually enjoy riveting maille. It's tedious, yeah, but it's not boring.
If the coif fitment is similar to mine (different maker) then having it attached means you won't be able to take it off for a breather. Mine isn't open enough to fold back like a hoodie, so with it attached it would have to stay on my head until I armor down.
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Just stitched a 3-layer heavy linen liner onto this coif tonight! For my first time sewing maille to fabric, it was an interesting experience, but I got the job done. I can secure the aventail to the coif in a variety of ways with my leather string, all of them giving pretty much the same general look:
(http://i.gyazo.com/9ce7fc47a72bf4720e6a3aff0e27edc2.png)
(http://i.gyazo.com/acb6271bbb48bd51da52aee1da5d0921.png)
(http://i.gyazo.com/73e497bf2728c46747d0a57e27b5ed30.png)
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Looks much straighter now with the padding. Very good!
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Looks much straighter now with the padding. Very good!
Thanks! It looked a bit lopsided without the padding due to the maille being improperly secured.
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Man, I'm envious- nicely done, Stanislaw! The coif itself seems a little short, a good argument for attaching it to a 'berk.
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How much was this coif?
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How much was this coif?
It came with a package of hauberk + chausses + coif on allthebeststuff.
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How much was this coif?
It came with a package of hauberk + chausses + coif on allthebeststuff.
Oh! I think that was the one I was looking at! Any recommendations for it? Flaws?
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You can buy several different types of maille packages from them, all with different ring diameters, metal gauge, and the like. Be sure to peruse their selection carefully before deciding on something, and look over the measurements given on the site very carefully. The rings are significantly better-riveted than GDFB or Icefalcon maille - you should probably look into their 17 gauge 8mm ring size.
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You can buy several different types of maille packages from them, all with different ring diameters, metal gauge, and the like. Be sure to peruse their selection carefully before deciding on something, and look over the measurements given on the site very carefully. The rings are significantly better-riveted than GDFB or Icefalcon maille - you should probably look into their 17 gauge 8mm ring size.
Well, for the past month I was eyeing up this one:
http://allbeststuff.com/c-medieval-chainmail-armor/c-chain-mail-shirt-coif-set/Round-Riveted-Links-with-Solid-Washers-Chain-Mail-Full-Suit-Body-Armor (http://allbeststuff.com/c-medieval-chainmail-armor/c-chain-mail-shirt-coif-set/Round-Riveted-Links-with-Solid-Washers-Chain-Mail-Full-Suit-Body-Armor)
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I suggest that one by far Aiden, because it's got the full package for only about 20 bucks more than what I payed for my hauberk ALONE. I have worn that maille too it doesnt have the "thread ripping" problems my old hauberk had as well and it looks rather even. I suggest going for it unless you're willing to pay the extra for wedge like I did.