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Main => The Armoury => Topic started by: Sir Brian on 2011-07-03, 12:31:36
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A comment made by Stormdelver over in the Sword Etching topic inspired me to start this new topic.
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One thing I believe is that a true sword has a soul, and deserves a name. It is importaint I think, to know who forged it, what kind of a person they are/were, and that a sword presentation is a unique ceremony that should be significant to the knight and sword. Ok that sounds weird but a sword was far more than a chunk of steel and would be treated as such.
What would you name your favorite sword, whether it’s a wall hanger or your favorite practice blade, what name would you deem worthy for your steel? ;)
I would like to name my soon to own Albion: Seelenspalter which according to the google translator is German for Soul Cleaver. :P
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I was taught that you don't go into battle with a stranger. My first blade was Whysper. My M16A2 in the Corps was Arlene. Currently I have Faylinn (the Malatesta), Krig Tispe (War Bitch/my short sword), Ygg (Terror/my large bearded axe), Fiende-Murdor (Foe-Slayer/my bearded battle axe), Gut Ripper (my Philippine war axe), and Betsy (my tact shotgun).
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Von Gottesmund
In German it translates to Of God's Mouth
I plan to use it as the name for my Darksword Armoury sword I ordered about an hour ago.
BTW, meanings? Mines from the Book of Revalations, chapter 19
His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
[13] And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
[14] And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
[15] And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
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I was taught that you don't go into battle with a stranger. My first blade was Whysper. My M16A2 in the Corps was Arlene. Currently I have Faylinn (the Malatesta), Krig Tispe (War Bitch/my short sword), Ygg (Terror/my large bearded axe), Fiende-Murdor (Foe-Slayer/my bearded battle axe), Gut Ripper (my Philippine war axe), and Betsy (my tact shotgun).
All of them are excellent names for your battle best friend Sir Wulf! I named my M16 "Betty Lou" after the Bob Seger Song "Betty Lou is getting out tonight" :)
Von Gottesmund
In German it translates to Of God's Mouth
Excellent name for your sword Sir Nathan and very appropriate to your personae! :)
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I know, it just seemed to fit perfectly :D
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I've always been fond of "Tod vor Schande". Death before dishonor.
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Very Good sir Rodney!
We all also seem to be very fond of German...... ;)
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Very worthy name Lord Rodney! :)
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I named mine Tyrannmörder (Tyrant Slayer). And I agree, sword names sound waaay more ominous in German :)
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I haven't named any of mine. Maybe I should. But then again, if I started trying to engrave my blades with names, I'd probably fall into the trap of wanting to do phrases instead, with things like "Point toward enemy" and "come get some". Perhaps written in runes or something. :)
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Well either one translates well in German!
"Come and get some" = kommen und einige
"Point towards enemy" = Punkt in Richtung Feind (this one really sounds ominous and nasty!) ;)
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"ich habe kein kaugunmi" ;)
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I have not named any of my swords yet, but my matchlock musket is named Constance (my wife named her) and my large hand gonne is named Molly. I'm still working on a name for my smaller hand gonne.
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"ich habe kein kaugunmi" ;)
"Dann treten einige Esel" ;D
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Not exactly the name of a sword, but the unofficial motto for Mercenary Company Nevermore is "Manduca Tribus" (eat for three). We are NOT a slim bunch. ;)
Our official motto is "Inquit Corvus" which is Latin for Quoth (the) Raven. This is an obvious reference to Edgar Allan Poe's The Raven and also explains the blazon of our (unregistered SCA) arms.
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This is Gasteviande...that is 'Guzzleguts' in Norman French...she hungers for blood and glory, a greedy sort, this one. Some of you have already seen her.
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv64/ebonpaladin/Armor/Sword/Gasteviande%20Reborn/DSC_0166.jpg)
I haven't named all of my weapons...it is a process.
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"ich habe kein kaugunmi" ;)
nobody responds really?
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"I have no chewing gum". Did I mess up the translation? Is there a pop culture reference I'm missing? Am I completely out of it? :-[
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"I have no chewing gum". Did I mess up the translation? Is there a pop culture reference I'm missing? Am I completely out of it? :-[
... meaning it's time to kick ass... :)
The line came from a movie called They Live! (1988), and then popularized (in a modified form) in the Duke Nukem 3D computer game (1996).
Movie: "I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass... and I'm all out of bubblegum."
Game: "It's time to kick ass and chew bubble gum... and I'm all out of gum!"
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ehhehehe ;)
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Yep, I'm completely out of it. :-[
I just went to my first movie in two years, Cars 2. Things change when you have children. ;)
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Before my time brothers, before my time...... :P
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I'd have caught that in English! I loved that flick! :)
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"ich habe kein kaugunmi" ;)
"Dann treten einige Esel" ;D
"ich habe kein kaugunmi" ;)
nobody responds really?
I did respond! Dann treten einige Esel is German for “Then kick some ass!” :P
http://translate.google.com/?hl=en&tab=wT#de|en|Dann%20treten%20einige%20Esel (http://translate.google.com/?hl=en&tab=wT#de|en|Dann%20treten%20einige%20Esel)
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I'm afraid I'd miss a good number of Duke Nukem references...I was never really a fan. I know, I know...someone call the archers, shoot this knight out of his misery, right? lol
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Ha! They can try to shoot us our of our "misery" all they want!
I'm still on the Armour side of this debate....
Hell, better that then the whole lances and subsequent horse trampling thing....
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Truly, getting trampled will ruin any knight's day! lol
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Yeah, just a bit.....
Especially if you manage to survive, having all the other knights laugh at the horse-shoe imprints on your armour.....
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So, Nathan...have you named your sword or did I just miss that post?
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Yes, I have.
Von Gottesmund
It's German for "of God's Mouth"
It's a reference to the book of revelations, chapter 19
His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.
[13] And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.
[14] And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.
[15] And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
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Well done! I like it.
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Thanks, It also fits the Teutonic knight persona perfectly!
I also like yours Sir William. It's quite a pretty set up. :)
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I don't have a named sword yet, since most of mine are SLOs/budget-minded hanwei / tinker / etc type pieces. However, when I put out the money for an Albion and a nice scabbard, it already has a name.
"Messor animarum"
It's latin for "reaper of souls". :D
Behind the ominous name, it's a bit of a tribute to an old game called Soul Calibur, of which my favorite character is Siegfried/Nightmare. The endgame sword, Soul Edge, took the lives *and* souls of those it slayed.
(On a side note, this is very samurai-esque. They had a belief that a samurai's swords - daisho, the long and sword swords / aka katana & wakizashi - contained the soul of the samurai.)
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Hmmm...Do you mean the name of your sword or the naming of swords in general?
Because Scandinavian cultures regularly named their blades, which I wouldn't see as a stretch for the Germanic-influenced areas of Europe during later eras.
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Thanks, Sir Nathan...that rig was done up by a young leather worker named Slayer...he is still learning his craft but he's gotten really good thus far. He'll be making our garters once I place the order.
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I think I remember you mentioning him at VARF. Good to see more dedicated cutlers out there. How much did the rig cost you?
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$200...but only because I provided the wood-cored scabbard itself...he fashioned the new scabbard leather and belts, then dyed them per my specs. The only thing he got wrong was which side the scabbard is to hang from...he built it for a righty and I'm a natural lefty.
Still, I like it as it was my first commissioned piece - albeit my second commission came in before that one; that was a miscommunication issue that we worked out to both of our advantages. I think his complete scabbard and belt pricing starts around $350-400 depending on how detailed it has to be. Still a good deal cheaper than anywhere else I could find; DBK normally charges 2.5 times that to start.
For instance, this rig cost me just over $1000 all said and done. Not a great picture and this was the one I'd put in the trunk by the time I saw you at VARF...I was wearing the one Slayer'd made for me when we finally met up.
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv64/ebonpaladin/Armor/Sword/DSC01205.jpg)
Now, to be fair, the DBK scabbard displays a level of fit and finish that Slayer has yet to achieve...but he's close and when you figure in that he's only 40% of the cost of a DBK is when you have to start asking the pertinent questions.
For myself, I wouldn't have a DBK scabbard built for a sword that costs less than half of the cost of the scabbard but to each their own.
I actually like what I've seen with regard to the scabbard and suspension rigs available from DSA; I think it good that they're attempting to do that in-house as opposed to collectors having to pursue other avenues...you could get an Albion scabbard with your Albion sword order but expect it to be about the same as a DBK and from what I have heard, it is no better, and there are less options available to you.
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Hmmm...Do you mean the name of your sword or the naming of swords in general?
Because Scandinavian cultures regularly named their blades, which I wouldn't see as a stretch for the Germanic-influenced areas of Europe during later eras.
As StormDelver said in the thread Sir Brian quoted from:
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One thing I believe is that a true sword has a soul, and deserves a name.
Not so much the naming, but the idea of a sword having a soul, and in that the samurai believe that their sword is a part of their soul, and has a special bond with them. The sword being more than a "simple" weapon or tool, and more than the sum of it's parts. Most of the MOPs would probably say "it's a cool weapon" or "it's a great tool for killing things", but wouldn't equate any "spiritual" type of bond with one.
I'm liking this thread. :D
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Need a name for my Albion...will probably go with something Latin as it is a Crusade-era sword. I think I have an idea...
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Need a name for my Albion...will probably go with something Latin as it is a Crusade-era sword. I think I have an idea...
how about " a gift for wolf" as it's name (hehehehe)
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Hey, that'd be....wait a minute, that means I'd have to give it to you, then. GIVE. LOL @ that
We're brothers, but I don't love you that much yet. lol
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Well he failed to mention which end to give him...kind of an important distinction when one is asking another to give away his sword! ;)
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Haha, similar to all the wise-guy smiths engraving "point this end at enemy" on blades?
But while Europe in general didn't go all out on the swords with souls thing, with the Scandinavians a sword of esteem had a character about it.
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Joe Metz posted a photo on facebook of the sword he rebuilt from an Albion Baron, reground down into a single-hander. He posted this about its name:
Following the practice of knights naming their swords, I have decided to call it "Juvante" which is short for the Latin expression "Deo Juvante" meaning "God's help". Ideally swords were used by knights to defend the weak. If I ever wielded this blade with deadly intent it would be in defense of a loved one to be sure.
Pretty cool.
Dang, all you guys are going to convince me to start naming mine. But as I said, it'll be hard to resist the temptation to go with phrases like "Come get some", "Point toward enemy", "Hail to the king, baby", etc. :)
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Everything sounds cool in Latin! Or any other language but English, really. I came up with a name for this sword but am not sure if it'll sound good.
"Linkehand Gott"
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Everything sounds cool in Latin! Or any other language but English, really. I came up with a name for this sword but am not sure if it'll sound good.
"Linkehand Gott"
"Left hand of God"?
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Is that a Van Helsing reference? 8)
Make sue it's for a Leftie.
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Everything sounds cool in Latin! Or any other language but English, really. I came up with a name for this sword but am not sure if it'll sound good.
"Linkehand Gott"
"Left hand of God"?
Yes!
Is that a Van Helsing reference? 8)
No! And it is for a lefty...but the reference is Biblical in origin and actually refers to Gabriel so I thought of calling it 'Gibril', the Arabic version of the name considering it is a Crusade-era sword. Just an idea...not struck in stone yet.
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Everything sounds cool in Latin! Or any other language but English, really. I came up with a name for this sword but am not sure if it'll sound good.
"Linkehand Gott"
"Left hand of God"?
Yes!
Huzzah! I win a cookie. :)
Is that a Van Helsing reference? 8)
No! And it is for a lefty...but the reference is Biblical in origin and actually refers to Gabriel so I thought of calling it 'Gibril', the Arabic version of the name considering it is a Crusade-era sword. Just an idea...not struck in stone yet.
Have you seen Van Helsing? Dracula refers to Van Helsing as the "left hand of God", and calls him Gabriel. I actually had the same thought as Sir Nathan. It's perfect for you, as you're a leftie. :)
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michael is the right hand and the one who kicked lucifer out of heaven so they had the names mixed up. dont forget about hark and harold angel. hehehe
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You know, I've seen Van Helsing twice but can attest to being preoccupied w/something else while watching it so although I do recall the LHoG one, don't recall him being called Gabriel, but it makes sense. And as you say, Sir James, I am a southpaw so it works for me.
It isn't blasphemous to use it? I wonder. I stop short of calling myself that...but have thought it from time to time. lol
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About a year ago I was looking thru a palladium games rifts book. There was a picture of an adventurer with a magic sword. In futhark runes on the blade it said " a magic sword"! I laughed myself sick.
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That was one of my main frustrations with that movie. Why didn't they explain that? And the whole nightmares thing? Wasn't explaining that one of the main reasons they went there?
I love the name Gibril. Would you be applying that to the sword you have? Guzzleguts?
And It's not blasphemous, as I imagine you wouldn't actually br considering yourself an archangel.
And I love Von Gottesmund because it does a perfect job of summarizing what it's purpose would be in that context. The reference is Apocalyptic, which would be appropriate for what it would be used for.
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You know, I've seen Van Helsing twice but can attest to being preoccupied w/something else while watching it so although I do recall the LHoG one, don't recall him being called Gabriel, but it makes sense.
It's actually a rather "quiet" portion. Van Helsing and Dracula are "stalking" each other, and Dracula almost whispers "Gabriel. Oh Gabriel.", if I remember right, just before Van Helsing stakes him (attention grabber). In the same conversation, he says something about "It must be so hard to be the left hand of God.", but that's all it really touches on.
That was one of my main frustrations with that movie. Why didn't they explain that? And the whole nightmares thing? Wasn't explaining that one of the main reasons they went there?
It's implying that Van Helsing is the human incarnation of Gabriel, and when he mentions to the friar about "I remember Rome", it's implying that Van Helsing has been around since roughly the time of the crucifixion. At another point, Dracula mentions that he can tell Van Helsing much about his past, and that's supposed to be part of the "bait" for Van Helsing to not kill him, and probably why it doesn't expand from that.
On a related note, if you haven't seen "Shroud" (made in 2009), the ending is interesting, and related in some way (which I won't spoil).
As for blasphemous for calling a sword Gibril or Gabriel - I don't see why a different language of the same name would matter, so Gabriel, Gibril, same thing. Calling a sword what it's been named is, simply, a name. As long as you don't worship the sword, I'd say you're fine, I think. :)
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On a related note, if you haven't seen "Shroud" (made in 2009), the ending is interesting, and related in some way (which I won't spoil).
I don't see it on Netflix. Doh.
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I just hate it when they don't expand on stuff like that. Cause I think that actually would have made a freaking awesome sequel. Or anything!
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On a related note, if you haven't seen "Shroud" (made in 2009), the ending is interesting, and related in some way (which I won't spoil).
I don't see it on Netflix. Doh.
It's a small budget movie by Jetre Films. There were pics and info in a thread on ArmourArchive.org. http://www.jetrefilm.com/ (http://www.jetrefilm.com/) is the official site. IMDB here (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0963948/combined (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0963948/combined)). Ugo Serrano and Patrick Thaden worked on the armor for the main character.
Google-fu fails me at finding a copy for sale. :(
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Well, it wouldn't be considered blasphemous if I did think of myself as one of the Archangels...I was referring to the LHoG reference...but it isn't, since I'm not calling myself 'God', only that the sword is His left hand.
Gibril was going to be the Arn sword's name...Guzzleguts IS the name for that other one...or Gasteviande, rather.
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Ahhh, ok. When's that coming?
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Gasteviande? She's already here.
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv64/ebonpaladin/Armor/Sword/Gasteviande%20Reborn/DSCN4669-1.jpg)
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv64/ebonpaladin/Armor/Sword/Gasteviande%20Reborn/GasteviandeReborn.jpg)
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Dang it, with all these cool names you guys are tossing around, I need to get off my butt and think up some good ones.
Problem is, I have several Albions.
What I might do is only name them once they have a scabbard, since that is usually the only real customization I have on them, and I don't consider the sword "complete" until it has one.
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That is an excellent idea...because you are not going to go to the extra expense on a sword you do not love. I have a number of other swords that are nameless, either because I don't care much for them or are SLO's...or both.
I still have my first real sword I ever bought...a Windlass, discontinued model. It has taken such a beating over the years...but I never gave it a name. But I can't bring myself to let it go, either.
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So far I've just been calling them by their model name. Baron, Dane, Knight, etc. Now I need to start thinking.
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If you don't love'm, don't bother naming'm...but if you do, then by all means. :)
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How can you not love an Albion? Blasphemy! :)
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This is true...but there's usually only one or two swords in a given collection that just...you know, you love. lol
THOSE are the ones who deserve names!
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what about the scabbards? didn't some name the scabbards as well as the sword? or am i talking out of my butt here?
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The Arn. I had the privilege of seeing Gasteviande at VARF
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With all this great discussions, I feel that I must jump in and state my piece.
The obvious Title I penned is "Knight of The Lion Blade" (now changed to "Knight of The Holy Lion), if I was to bestow a name for my Sword. It would have to be a name that would have a ringing tone that is epic.
Ideas of mine would be "Lion's Soul", "Lion's Fire", or "Holy Lion's Flame"
Ok, they may sound corny, but it what I have penned so far. Improvements are considered.
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Dang it, with all these cool names you guys are tossing around, I need to get off my butt and think up some good ones.
Problem is, I have several Albions.
What I might do is only name them once they have a scabbard, since that is usually the only real customization I have on them, and I don't consider the sword "complete" until it has one.
With the amount of swords you have, naming only the albions with a scabbard is probably a good start. Or we could ask for advice from the lady on that "19 and counting" show that has 19 kids. I bet she'd have some ideas. :D
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That lady should probably consider naming her children after the cities they were conceived in. LOL
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I decided to name my soon to arrive Albion Talhoffer: Auge Beißer which is German for Eye Biter.
I am considering having the German phrase: Ich heiße Auge Beißer - My name is Eye Biter - engraved upon the blade. ;)
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What, not Seelenspalter? Did I get that right? I thought that was pretty cool...but so's Eye Biter. Sounds Skaldic.
I went with Deus Irae for the ARN sword...it fits, sounds good, etc etc. My next, and probably last, Albion is due in before the year's end. It's a Crecy, and I'm already in love w/it so it'll need a name eventually.
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Seelenspalter is the name of my Albion Meyer. ;)
I chose Eye Biter because of the blade's insanely sharp, needle like point that reminds me of the morbid nursery rhyme:
“Cross my heart, hope to die, stick a needle in my eye”. ;D
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i heard Sir Edward's Meyer is called thumb splitter ;)
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i heard Sir Edward's Meyer is called thumb splitter ;)
Ah, but mine hasn't split anyone's thumbs. So far I have a pretty good track record of not injuring people.
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That lady should probably consider naming her children after the cities they were conceived in. LOL
I can't imagine a son named "Bathroom Floor" and a daughter named "Kitchen Table."
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i heard Sir Edward's Meyer is called thumb splitter ;)
Ah, but mine hasn't split anyone's thumbs. So far I have a pretty good track record of not injuring people.
No Sir Edward should name his new Meyer:
Schmiererei blau = Blue Graffiti :P
That lady should probably consider naming her children after the cities they were conceived in. LOL
I can't imagine a son named "Bathroom Floor" and a daughter named "Kitchen Table."
Well there is always the more descriptive: Broken Rubber! :D
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reminds me of a joke...
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Sir Ed should name his old Meyer "Split" ;)
How about the name "Oops" for a child?
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Don't know about my swords but my Warhammer is "Head Splitter". Sensible because contact with it will cause you a splitting headache. :)
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I probably posted this earlier, but my sword's name is Von Gottesmund.
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Sir Ed should name his old Meyer "Split" ;)
How about the name "Oops" for a child?
Oops is a good name for a trainer. LOL :)
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Oops is a good name for a trainer. LOL :)
I was thinking the same name. Particularly for a broken trainer. But then, "broken" is also a good name in that case. :)
When I find some time, I still plan to re-grind my broken Meyer into a serviceable one-hander. It's a very period thing to do.
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Oops is a good name for a trainer. LOL :)
I was thinking the same name. Particularly for a broken trainer. But then, "broken" is also a good name in that case. :)
When I find some time, I still plan to re-grind my broken Meyer into a serviceable one-hander. It's a very period thing to do.
Broken is a better name for some knights who slip on the hilt (ahem Sir Brian) :o Keep your guard up!! LOL
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Here are two photos of my sword 'Golgotha', hanging on my metallic gray walls. Apologies if the symbolism offends anyone. I am a crusader, after all. :)
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Sweet! I think your hanger is brilliant! :)
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Sweet! I think your hanger is brilliant! :)
Yeah. A drawer handle. Creative. :)
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Sweet! I think your hanger is brilliant! :)
Sweet! I think your hanger is brilliant! :)
Yeah. A drawer handle. Creative. :)
Thanks. During the the earthquake two of my swords fell off the wall. I decided to use a closed hanger after that. ;)
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Sweet! I think your hanger is brilliant! :)
Indeed! Points for creativity and resourcefulness!
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That's a really good idea. I have some of the cheaper scissor-action hangars. They're OK, but I think to make them secure you have to anchor them to the wall and not just use a nail.
I'll have to come up with some names at some point. For now, my swords just bear the names given to them by Albion and A&A.
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Sylvanus...nicely done, Sir. I need to hang some of mine...just haven't figured out where or how. I have some of those fancy fleur-de-lis hangers but I'm not certain that's the imagery I want to evoke. I have time though...still need other furnishings first.
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After much thought... I have decided upon a proper name for this worthless waster of mine. It shall be known as "Excrement" from the proper Latin for "piece of ****!!!" :-\
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Silvanus, don't worry about offending anyone here with religious significance. My sword's name is a reference to a sword flying from God's mouth and beating down he wicked nations of the earth and/or splitting marrow from the bone.
It's very meieval, and cool for a Crusader persona. Good choice. :)
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Silvanus, don't worry about offending anyone here with religious significance. My sword's name is a reference to a sword flying from God's mouth and beating down he wicked nations of the earth and/or splitting marrow from the bone.
It's very meieval, and cool for a Crusader persona. Good choice. :)
Never feel like you must apologize for religious zeal, Sirs Silvanus and Nathan. Especially if it is a reflective part of who you are, your words you speak, and the actions you take. Apologizing for an offense if taken in such a way is only polite if offense was unintended. People should know the difference in a contextual sense. They will make it known if offense was given. Honesty & respect for others is already assumed in your mannerism by those who understand you, and all on this site understand you!! :) :)
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Don't worry Lord Dane, I'm the last to apologize for that! ;D
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Huzzah! I got an email this morning from Albion that my Talhoffer, Auge Beißer will be shipped out today and I should have it by Wednesday…two days before I leave for CRF and proudly display it along with my fancy scabbard! ;D
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Huzzah! I got an email this morning from Albion that my Talhoffer, Auge Beißer will be shipped out today and I should have it by Wednesday…two days before I leave for CRF and proudly display it along with my fancy scabbard! ;D
I think we're going to need to see some pictures. Huzzah!
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Huzzah! I got an email this morning from Albion that my Talhoffer, Auge Beißer will be shipped out today and I should have it by Wednesday…two days before I leave for CRF and proudly display it along with my fancy scabbard! ;D
Auge Beiber...that Justin's little brother? ;)
"Pics or it didn't happen" - attributed to Sir Wolf
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Proof of Auge Beißer lives! ;D
I had a few moments of panic when I tried it in the scabbard and it stopped about 1.5 inches from fully seating in the scabbard! :o
I then had a second panic attack when I was steadily pushing the blade further into the scabbard and I heard a heart-stopping *CRACK*!! :o
I pulled the blade free and inspected the scabbard and there wasn't any visible crack through the leather covering and reasoned that the tightness of the leather covering and the long time the scabbard laid around without a blade it had become a bit more constricted so I worked with it and now it sheaths all the way in but it is still a bit snug. I'll have to work it some more and then maybe add some more gun oil to the blade...now all you guys can get your minds out of the gutter! ;)
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Last two pictures...:)
Note the shade of green on the grip is nearly a perfect match of the scabbard's green! :)
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Huzzah! A very wonderful blade and scabbard indeed! Congratulations!
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Wow, fantastic!
Just don't get too enthusiastic about that lubricated working of the blade there... :)
It's possible you got a really small split in the wood or in the seam that will be held together by the leather and not cause a problem. I wouldn't worry too much if you can't find anything obvious.
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Wow, he really did a great job with the scabbard- loving the griffin! I'm with Sir Edward, most likely a seam got separated- if you push the blade in til you get to that point, put your finger around that area and look and feel for any movement under the leather near the point of the scabbard, you might then catch it, so to speak. I can't tell if you have a metal or leather chape- if its leather, you'll have a better chance of feeling that separation but either way, you should be good. The chape will keep that section of the scabbard intact.
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Well this is late and out of context of the previous discussion.
I penned a new name for my Sword.
"Malta's Hope"
The idea stemmed from me reading the accounts of the Siege of Malta in 1565. Plus the sword is this:
(http://www.armor.com/view.html?sword135a.jpg)
(http://www.armor.com/view.html?sword135b.jpg)
This is how the name fits with a Middle 16th Century/Renaissance Sword.
I even named my future Square Target in which I call it:
"Vienna's Refuge" once again inspired from the Siege of Vienna in 1510.
(http://www.armor.com/view.html?armor046a.jpg)
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The pictures aren't showing for me Joshua! :(
Do you have another link to them?
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Here are the links to the sword and shield I chose to go with my Kit.
http://www.armor.com/sword135.html (http://www.armor.com/sword135.html)
http://www.armor.com/armor046.html (http://www.armor.com/armor046.html)
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I'm going to name my new blade "Arbitrator" in honor of my union. Reason: I see it resolving many disputes in the near future. :) :) Appropriate huh?? Wonder if I should bring it to contract negotiations.... Hmmmmm. ;) It's the one in my avatar on the the left.
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Very cool and appropriate name Lord_Dane! :)
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Very cool and appropriate name Lord_Dane! :)
Thank you Sir Brian. Needs some personal touches to the pommel and scabbard to be truely mine. I already have just the items ready too. This will look fantastic when done. :)
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Well? What're you waiting for, let's see it!
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Right now I'm stuck between Zerstörer and Zorn Gottes
Wrath of God may have been too presumptuous for Medieval times, so I'm leaning towards Destroyer.
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I don't know, if you had used your sword for judicial duels then the 'Wrath of God' would be most appropriate! ;)
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Right now I'm stuck between Zerstörer and Zorn Gottes
Wrath of God may have been too presumptuous for Medieval times, so I'm leaning towards Destroyer.
I've got one named thusly, albeit in Latin: Deus Irae
(http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv64/ebonpaladin/Armor/Sword/Irae/SwordoftheEbonPaladinresized.jpg)
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Well, with another change of mind, I decided to return to the original Sword Name I penned.
"Lion Blade"
I am more likely using a Spada de Zogho as that sword since I like the design. However I am considering either a A&A Black Prince or Henry V. I am also thinking of a King Edward III Sword. ;)
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i don't think i have ever seriously named anything but animals and children. i dunno, to me they are just tools. i mean it's cool to do so and has a neat story line but i just haven't done it :)
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i don't think i have ever seriously named anything but animals and children. i dunno, to me they are just tools. i mean it's cool to do so and has a neat story line but i just haven't done it :)
Well if you should ever change your mind and name one of your swords may I suggest the latin name of:
Malleorum hircus
;D
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Well if you should ever change your mind and name one of your swords may I suggest the latin name of:
Malleorum hircus
;D
Seconded!
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lol, excellent. :)
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Yes, quite. lol
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what the heck does that mean?
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(http://farm1.staticflickr.com/11/16266575_44fe84e30f_z.jpg?zz=1)
Evil goat 8)
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AHHHHHHHH, HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Suits you quite well Sir Wolf! :P
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He walked right into that one. LOL
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I have a better one more deserving of Sir Wolf. Try this one: Ovis Sacrilegus. (Let him figure it out) :o
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I have a better one more deserving of Sir Wolf. Try this one: Ovis Sacrilegus. (Let him figure it out) :o
?? go pound sand.
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Sorry had to say it. ;D LOL
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i don't think i have ever seriously named anything but animals and children. i dunno, to me they are just tools. i mean it's cool to do so and has a neat story line but i just haven't done it :)
Well if you should ever change your mind and name one of your swords may I suggest the latin name of:
Malleorum hircus
My apologies Sir Wolf! According to Google translator it means 'Hammer Goat' but I do not know how to properly structure Latin sentences and I meant it to basically mean...'Hammer of the Goat' which I think should have been either Hircus Malleorum or perhaps Capra Malleus. - Either way it was an inside joke referencing our numerous allusions to you once considering a goat crest way back when you were developing your CoA. - Discourtesy to you was not my intent. :-[
I have a better one more deserving of Sir Wolf. Try this one: Ovis Sacrilegus. (Let him figure it out) :o
Not funny or appropriate. >:(
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My apologies Sir Wolf! According to Google translator it means 'Hammer Goat' but I do not know how to properly structure Latin sentences and I meant it to basically mean...'Hammer of the Goat' which I think should have been either Hircus Malleorum or perhaps Capra Malleus. - Either way it was an inside joke referencing our numerous allusions to you once considering a goat crest way back when you were developing your CoA. - Discourtesy to you was not my intent. :-[
Ah! I had "mallorum", which I thought would mean bad/evil (mal in latin being the root for english words like malevolent and malfunction) and confirmed http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?l=malorum&la=la (http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/morph?l=malorum&la=la)
Malleorum does indeed mean hammer! My apologies! :-[
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My apologies 2 Sir Wolf. Just trying to add some levity to the thread. I'll buy you 1st round next Order outing at MDRF. ;D
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Since this started with something I said....
I find it interesting that most swords from literature pre-dated their owners, most are mythical and were given names by someone generally unknown as they are often known through legend. While LOTR follows this to a point, Sting was an exception (I believe). In other worlds (Song of Ice And Fire, Swords follow the mythical name with at least one noted exception, Joffrey names at least two of his swords and, well, he was unworthy of both.
So here it is, as you are building your persona, naming a sword also requires a sketched persona, most swords were given a name based on their deeds and ego. Swords in literature were just as good or evil as the characters who used them. Some names would have great fantasy value but bad timeline value (soul stealer may be looked at as a demonic blade by the church and its bearer a heritic).
The Samurai held there swords in religious honor, under their belief the sword had a soul in its own right, and therefore would be named. Most were given names originating in elemental, earth, or nature. As Samurai lived to serve, the sword was an extension of that service with blades handed down for many generations.
So while I make no comment on what to name your blade, its part of your chracter, I do find it an interesting topic, and a great way to add interest to your character, and a natural thing to do for something you depend your life on.
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Sir Wolf: after looking up the translation I find out the double translations and I do apologize. I meant it in good humor only.
Sir Robert: This is quite good material for the thinking process of penning a sword name. I did the same with my sword name as it was inspired from my coat of arms (which you see in my profile) and it was almost easy. Hence it is why I will call my A&A (or Darksword, probably both) Black Prince Sword "The Lion Blade". Which it fits nicely because Prince Edward belonged to the Plantenget Line (ancestral line from Richard the Lion-Heart) and his coat of arms (if you look in the Order of the Garter COA Roster) has the proof of this.
So while I make no comment on what to name your blade, its part of your character, I do find it an interesting topic, and a great way to add interest to your character, and a natural thing to do for something you depend your life on.
I agree, and this helps a great deal with my 1350's English Knight in the Service of the Black Prince character (coming up with a character name). Once you add history and accounts of individuals who lived in that time frame and historical novels dealing with the same time period, you got material to right a historical novel. This is one of the joys of this kind of activity.
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The Samurai held there swords in religious honor, under their belief the sword had a soul in its own right, and therefore would be named. Most were given names originating in elemental, earth, or nature. As Samurai lived to serve, the sword was an extension of that service with blades handed down for many generations.
Sir Robert, as a fellow Japanese weapons / armor guy, do you have a source for this? I know they held their swords in high regard, but have not seen of them naming them. My focus has been upon the arms and armor as items, as well as some interest in Bushido; the rest of their lifestyle, I know little of. Seems an interesting topic.
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Though I would like to mention that wieding a blade named "Soul Stealer" probably wouldn't get you branded a heretic, or actually punished. Though to the spiritual peoples of that time though, it would be similar to having a sword named "Helpless Orphan Stabber" or "Naked Baby Kicker"
Then again, with all the dark humor abound, some people might have a chuckle over it.
Food for thought.
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Though I would like to mention that wieding a blade named "Soul Stealer" probably wouldn't get you branded a heretic, or actually punished. Though to the spiritual peoples of that time though, it would be similar to having a sword named "Helpless Orphan Stabber" or "Naked Baby Kicker"
Then again, with all the dark humor abound, some people might have a chuckle over it.
Food for thought.
How about "Ass Whooper". Hath one thought of that???
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I think "puppy drowner" sounds good. A very high and noble name, indeed. :)
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If I might chime in.
I do believe that since one's blade - when properly utilized - can become a close companion, the bestowal of a name is a goodly idea. Indeed the naming of blades can be found in a number of traditions for sure. In my own tradition blades are often given names. Most of mine have been named.
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After searching the forums for something entirely different, I stumbled upon this.
I think it's hard to name a blade without first having it in your hands, and "getting to know her." Basically it usually takes me one set of my leather gloves, and blisters before I come to that point. I only have one blade that's named at the moment, my claymore. She isn't pretty by any means, it's a one step above stainless wall hanger cheapo to be exact. She does have a tang though and balances quite well. Her name is "Coinníoll" which is Irish Gaelic for word of honor, diligence, pledge, and covenant.
The cool story behind her is she was given to me, believe it or not, as a "party stuffer." ;D My friend was graduating from Cal State Fullerton. I, his girlfriend (now wife), and his sister got together and bought him a beautiful katana as a gift. He practices kenjutsu, and iaido and he really did need a better sword as he was starting to get into cutting. It's a beautiful hand forged, clay tempered beauty with a custom period made tsuba with a falcon and tiger on it. Anyway, back to mine, somehow (I blame his wife) he got word of this gift we got him. So for my "party stuffer" he spent the same amount of money as everyone else for me, but instead of just some random stuff, or the girlie girl stuff he got his sister and girlfriend, he bought me that claymore. I was shocked. It was my first sword I personally own.
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Patricius, I agree; one should indeed get to know their blade before naming it. In my own case I have quite a number of sharp edged companions in my collection, though my two bestest buddies (grin) are a hand forged Roman Gladius which was specially made for me by a smith in Washington State(way back in the day) and my Cold Steel Grosse-Messer which though factory built(largely in India)is a real beauty to behold. By the way the Grosse Messer from Cold Steel certainly lives up to the hype in that it is delivered razor sharp and more than sturdy enough to cut things like logs and phone books in half ;)
I liked the story you shared about receiving your sword too, by the way. The best ones I think, are indeed given as gifts - more power there I think.
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I agree. Swords, guns, etc... for some reason things like that, always are a wee bit more special when given as a gift.
Any videos of the carnage of your Cold Steel? 8) I've been looking at getting a saber from them. they're relatively inexpensive and very practical it seems.
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No, I personally have never taken any footage of my particular sword in action. However I do believe there are a number of Grosse-Messer cutting vids available on line
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If I had a sword, it would be a great sword named Abyss.
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I am partial to "mercy giver", makes me think that with a name like that, that one would not take a life without good cause. :D
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I was always under the impression that naming weapons was rather uncommon, practiced by only a handful of monarchs. All my weapons are nameless.
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I was always under the impression that naming weapons was rather uncommon, practiced by only a handful of monarchs. All my weapons are nameless.
Sandor Clegane had something to say about this topic in the Game of Thrones show, Season 4 I believe... ;)
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That being said, I don't name my weapons, but I always refer to them with feminine pronouns.
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Sandor Clegane had something to say about this topic in the Game of Thrones show, Season 4 I believe... ;)
Ha, yes he certainly did. :)
I've never felt compelled to name any of my personal weapons.
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I never really got into the whole naming of inanimate objects thing, either. Though when I was younger I hunted with a little 20-gauge bantam shotgun I called Little Bart (because my dad called his 12-gauge Big Bertha). I also named my anvil Frank :P
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I’ve never named my weapons, but I do write little messages and smiley faces on my SCA thrusting tips for my own amusement. If I’m going to poke a guy in the ocular, at least the last thing he sees before dying is a smiley face. :)
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I think if I started naming my weapons, I'd run into the problem of not being able to keep the names straight. It works well enough for me to just refer to my Albions and A&As by their model names. Besides, "The Baron" still sounds pretty good, for example. :)
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I think if I started naming my weapons, I'd run into the problem of not being able to keep the names straight. It works well enough for me to just refer to my Albions and A&As by their model names. Besides, "The Baron" still sounds pretty good, for example. :)
As does "The Vigil" (My second favorite). :)
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Ill have to rethink a name for my Hospitaller.