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Sir James A:
I started a new thread for feedback, suggestions, etc for the Order website here: http://modernchivalry.org/forum/index.php/topic,790.new.html#new

Sir Edward:

--- Quote from: Sir Edward on 2010-11-17, 20:49:36 ---I just noticed that Chris Torres has a violation of tincture. That grail is metal on metal. Heh. I think you can get away with that if the chalice is "Proper" instead of "Or" though.

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The rule of tincture can be really complex, especially with the exceptions that are permitted. As much as Wikipedia isn't the end-all be-all of truth, it does have some good info on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_tincture

It looks like with regards to his chalice, it's a violation because they blazoned it as "a chalice Or", but they could get away with it by blazoning it as "a gilt chalice proper" or something like that. Heh. Manipulation of the rules. :)

Sir William:
It seems mine is in violation as well...but if Sir Edward is kind enough to change the cross to 'gules' then I should be good to go?

Sir Edward:

Yeah, this stuff can be so confusing at times. I kept thinking that even though the charges are stacked, they're still individually touching the azure field and needed to be a metal. But since they're technically on top of each other, I'm now thinking the cross needs to be a color so that it stacks properly over the wings which are a metal. It's all in how you interpret the rules, and they do explain it in terms of layers.

This isn't helping my headache today... lol :) It's fun puzzling these things out sometimes though. :)

Sir William:
I didn't know you were ailing, Sir Edward- or I wouldn't have bothered you so much today!  Thanks for all of your help though...great work.  :)

The rules seem simple at first until they're applied...

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