Main > The Campaign
PARF 2015
Thorsteinn:
Maybe they wee defensive in the cover v. concealment sense?
Sir Nate:
--- Quote from: Ian on 2015-10-29, 23:43:53 ---Blair doesn't spend much more time on them, but there is an account from a late 12th century tournament at Windsor that describes them as being made from parchment. In the medieval context this would be a fine leather more than paper-like in consistency, and this is specific to a tournament so it's unclear if it is appropriate to *all* ailettes. There are no known extant ailettes. It's one of those mystery things. Most people seem to like the idea of making them from a thin piece of hardened leather or maybe parchment stretched over thin wood. Some people are really attached to the idea of them being defensive. Some evidence points to them being made of non-defensive materials. Most of the people who say they are defensive point to the fact that they are depicted artistically in battle, but so are things like heraldic crests and surcoats, so it would appear knights were willing to wear flashy heraldic symbols that weren't directly for defense. It is a mystery ;)
--- End quote ---
It's interesting that they are mentioned in the late 12th century. Since they are generally depicted in late 13th century and earl 14th century art. Did you mean to type late 13th? if not that would be interesting(now I'm going a bit more off topic) because There is a quote by Gerald of wales where he mentions in rarity that some knights would wear Iron greaves. Another Item that is usually mid to late 13th century and still rare and it is being mentioned in the late 12th.
Sir Edward:
Yeah, I knew there weren't any extant, surviving examples. I'd only heard about leather, or leather wrapped wood being the strongest theories, but parchment. Wow. ;) It makes sense if it's only meant to add a splash of detail.
Ian:
--- Quote from: Naythan on 2015-10-30, 12:26:10 ---It's interesting that they are mentioned in the late 12th century. Since they are generally depicted in late 13th century and earl 14th century art. Did you mean to type late 13th? if not that would be interesting(now I'm going a bit more off topic) because There is a quote by Gerald of wales where he mentions in rarity that some knights would wear Iron greaves. Another Item that is usually mid to late 13th century and still rare and it is being mentioned in the late 12th.
--- End quote ---
That was a typo, should have said late 13th century tournament.
Sir Nate:
--- Quote from: Ian on 2015-10-30, 15:50:04 ---
--- Quote from: Naythan on 2015-10-30, 12:26:10 ---It's interesting that they are mentioned in the late 12th century. Since they are generally depicted in late 13th century and earl 14th century art. Did you mean to type late 13th? if not that would be interesting(now I'm going a bit more off topic) because There is a quote by Gerald of wales where he mentions in rarity that some knights would wear Iron greaves. Another Item that is usually mid to late 13th century and still rare and it is being mentioned in the late 12th.
--- End quote ---
That was a typo, should have said late 13th century tournament.
--- End quote ---
There go my dreams of being to re-enact a late 13th century knight for late 12th century ;)
Navigation
[0] Message Index
[*] Previous page
Go to full version