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The 14th Century Surcote, Cotton-Velvet or Wool? (And where goes the heraldry?)

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scott2978:
As for the armor, here's a few helpful resources:

http://effigiesandbrasses.com/search/

http://www.themcs.org/armour/14th%20century%20armour.htm

http://talbotsfineaccessories.com/armour/effigy/effigy%20analysis.html

Henrik Granlid:
After a stout observation from Ian and some digging from me, it would appear that my kit-in-progress, is decidedly English, both pertaining to what I want the final thing to look like, and also in the "To get there" items I am planning on getting.

A breakdown of the first level of my kit would be:

Helmet (please ignore the rest, it's either the wrong size, clunky or anachronistic safety measures)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lja0nody24p2aio/2014-08-22%2014.02.08.jpg?dl=0

Center hinged/klappvizier bascinet with a globular visor. 1360 england
http://manuscriptminiatures.com/4884/14183/

There are effigies shown with english knights with globular visors earlier as well, however, these are side-hinged rather than from a center, but I'm still counting both the earlier shapes and this very specific helmet as wins when it comes to being pleased with my helmet for this kit.


Shoulder defenses: Incoming shouldercops as the ones pictured in the original post. Now, these are German in style rather than English, and they will eventually be swapped out, but I prefer them over non-intergrated spaulders. (Quick edit: I might keep the cops http://www.themcs.org/armour/knights/Hereford%20Cathedral%20Peter%20de%20Grandisson%201358%20516.JPG )

Chest defense: Making a coat of plate in the coming week, either a more fitted one in this style: http://i.imgur.com/yC2azwL.jpg, or something easier such as this http://i.imgur.com/gj9NUpw.jpg (or another visby or küssnacht style). This is, however, to be worn under a surcotte as soon as possible.


Arm defenses: Full floating: Forearm splints, pointy elbow with rondel, rearbrace (if any) in same colour leather as splints, only studded for now. This will later be upgraded to a full on articulated arm with historical shapes (tuliping I believe?), but for now, the pointed, splinted construction is quicker and easier and still doable historically.

Leg defenses: Gamboised Quises, floating kneecops.


Big acquisitions:

Grettir Gauntlets (because owie)

Cased Greaves (likely Eastern Block Armour for spring steel at a good price)

Albert Collins (www.viaarmorari.com) breastplate (long way down the line)


Semi sized acquisitions (i.e. every now and then):

Fully articulated arm and spaulders (not sure if armcannons or not)

Chainmail Hauberk from custom chainmail. Likely blackened, flattened riveted to go with the aventail and play off of the increase in white plate harness.

Breastplate or coat of plate from local armourer and great guy

Possibly experimental cased greaves from Man on Anvil in stainless steel.

A better gambesson, possibly a CDB-patterned pourpoint, if I can get that bloody toile to work, so far I'm having a really rough time with it. Otherwise it'll just be a more normal looking one, less buttons and frills and historical shapes though.

Splinted cuises.

Surcote with linnen base and historical silk-weave shell.

Finally:
And that should detail the currently planned journey of my kit. At some point, I'm gonna have to start to plan for a new helmet, but not for quite a while it seems.

scott2978:
The kalpvisor bascinet was indeed used by the English for a time, before the houndskull visor came to prominence. I have even seen some houndskull bascinets that used to be klapvisors (the Wallace Collection A69 helm being probably the most famous example).

Your long term goals for arms and legs seem good to me. For the pourpoint, I highly recommend the experience of buying this pattern and assembling it yourself:

http://www.lulu.com/us/en/shop/tasha-kelly/the-pourpoint-of-charles-de-blois/paperback/product-15326605.html

Ian has made one a while back and I'm currently in the middle of making one using this pattern (which reminds me I need to post some pics...)

For the cased greaves, do yourself a big favor and use a vendor that makes them from a cast of your leg. They will cost more, but the agony they will save you is incalculable. ESPECIALLY if your end goal is full floating legs! Walk about 500 feet in greaves that ride on your foot or chafe your ankles and you'll never want to put them on again. I'll be surprised if after wearing the floating legs a few times you don't start thinking about fully articulated legs. And then... slowly... inevitably... you're being pulllllled into the 1390's, where all the BEST armor lives!  :)

Henrik Granlid:
Oh Eastern Ironworks does work off of casts, furthermore, at least three of his greaves have gone to the imcf and back, you can really move in those.

I'm also rather tempted to try out Man on Anvil for a pair since he builds them off of casts for very, very little, it would be worth the 220 usd to have them (140 for greaves, 78 for shipping to Sweden), and if they don't sit well enough, I can always take the hinges off and rivet straps on to turn them into schybalds.

And well, we'll see about the floatation legs ;)

Sir James A:
That's an utterly ridiculous price for cased greaves! Mine were done in mild steel based of measurements alone and were about $550 including shipping to the US. Do you have a link for his site?

And yes, you can convert cased greaves to scyhnbalds. I did it once before. Only thing I wasn't happy with is the extra hole from 4-hole hinges instead of two hole hinges, but if you ask for (or the standard is) two-hole hinges, as in one per side, it's trivial to remove them and replace them with straps.

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