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How to put on 12th century armor
Ian:
--- Quote from: Lord Dane on 2014-07-22, 20:44:40 ---What about early pot helmets or barrel styles??
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Aside from that one outlier, they start to pop up in art around 1215ish...
1215 Italian Fresco:
1225 Switzerland:
~1215-1240 France:
1225-1229 Germany:
1230 France:
1217 England:
1240 England:
Sir Edward:
--- Quote from: Ian on 2014-07-22, 20:39:23 ---However, early great helms pop up in the early 13th century from multiple regions and sources, not necessarily just the second half.
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True, what I should have said was that later style great-helms appear in the second half of the 13th. The one in the armoring sequence looks like a later, barrel-shaped great helm to me, rather than the high-backed, or faceplate styles that you tend to see in the first half of the century.
Thorsteinn:
Baeyeaux Tapestry shos something, and I know that the Romans used padding in their Hamata.
Sir Wolf:
tapestry shows a later date of people who got bored sewing . multiple versions of mail. even the bishop odo
Romans, now Romans at least knew of something. a Subarmalis. found in one writing. nothing physical in drawings, paintings, finds, lists/rosters etc
i can not remember the quote, but during the crusades the western crusaders were bewildered about the Mediterraneans having coats of layers.
so WESTERN Europe. i do believe up until the maybe late 12thc early 13thc had nothing more than woolen tunics. felted maybe. maybe thick wool maybe. but theres no evidence to show any thing else. i know in the absence of evidence blah blah, save that thought for the hitler channel or syfy lol
Sir James A:
From a practical stand point, mail without padding is not good protection against swords; you won't get cut, but bones will break like candy. And broken rings driven into flesh, from not having padding, would be an unpleasant experience (if not death from infection).
I have no problem wearing mail over a t-shirt to walk around or piddle. But for combat? No way. I'm also a soft 21st century guy, so, who knows. :)
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