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Is it Honorable to win, then say the loser should reign?
Sir Brian:
--- Quote from: Lord Chagatai on 2014-06-14, 23:13:44 ---Well...while honorable I think the SCA and reigning royalty would have an issue with it cause it goes against the oath that you as a fighter took at the beginning of the tournament. It also goes against the letter of intent that you, along with your consort, sent into the crown to fight in the first place. And if you did that what would it do to the honor of your consort, who thinks you would make a good king or would not have agreed to be your consort?
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Wait WHAT! :o >:(
Okay I know nothing about the inner intrigues of the SCA world. With this additional information I recant my earlier determination and deem him his act to be dishonorable. If he swore an oath that was also carrying the honor and reputation of a lady then his action is twice as deplorable. However he certainly proved his lack of suitability to be king.
Sir Edward:
--- Quote from: Sir Brian on 2014-06-15, 09:09:24 ---
--- Quote from: Lord Chagatai on 2014-06-14, 23:13:44 ---Well...while honorable I think the SCA and reigning royalty would have an issue with it cause it goes against the oath that you as a fighter took at the beginning of the tournament. It also goes against the letter of intent that you, along with your consort, sent into the crown to fight in the first place. And if you did that what would it do to the honor of your consort, who thinks you would make a good king or would not have agreed to be your consort?
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Wait WHAT! :o >:(
Okay I know nothing about the inner intrigues of the SCA world. With this additional information I recant my earlier determination and deem him his act to be dishonorable. If he swore an oath that was also carrying the honor and reputation of a lady then his action is twice as deplorable. However he certainly proved his lack of suitability to be king.
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Wow, yes, that sheds a lot of additional light on the matter.
Sir Nate:
coming into this late. But yes I think that is very honorable, in fact in the same situation I would do the same thing.
Lord Chagatai:
Having fought in four crown tournaments I take this very seriously....if I didn't think I would be a good king then I would have never sent in my letter of intent. You swear on the sword of the King to fight with honor and chivalry and for the honor of your lady/consort. And you also swear that if you win you will honor the thrown of the kingdom, so if you win and then give it up it goes against what you swore to your leige and the queen, let alone the oath you swore to your consort when you asked to fight for them. It goes against personal honor, your ladies honor, their royal majesties honor and the kingdom's. If you don't feel worthy enough then don't enter or if you did enter withdraw with the permission of your consort, so that you can remain honorable and respected. Stay true to the virtues that you strive to uphold...!!
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Sir Douglas:
Yeah, that definitely sheds some more light on the matter.
But then, what do you do in the situation? On the one hand, if X was allowed to concede to Y, then Y would be king, but if X was dishonored for trying to concede (because if the crown tournament is that involved a matter, then would you really want a king who would shirk his duties so readily?), then it seems like Y would end up being king anyway.
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