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Sir Nate:
No it didn't. I was looking through the book here and there, everywhere and couldn't relocate. I'll stumble upon it soon enough. Plus history can be distracting at times.

Lord Dane:
Crusader era 1200-1300 maille: Would round ring or flat ring be more applicable for dome riveted historical accuracy??

scott2978:
I'm not an expert on the subject, but I believe alternating riveted rings and solid flat rings is appropriate for pretty much the entire period from 300AD until about 1450 when all riveted became the norm. I think in every picture of historical maille I've ever seen, from roman lorica hamata of 300AD to the 15th century, the riveted rings are round regardless of what type of rivet was used. Also I think the ring diameter of historical maille tends to be smaller than 9mm, and historical maille doesn't have the machine-like consistance of wire and ring diameters of modern reproductions. Of course historical maille is scarce today, because it was re-used and re-used until it was unservicable or until the 15th century when a nice haubergeon would be cut apart into voiders and standards etc. and continue to be re-used some more. That very nature of re-use makes even historical maille rather unreliable as a true guide to history. When rings get replaced, sometimes they are different size and/or different materials. You can see a LOT of pictures of actual historical maille here:

http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=29331&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

Sir Nate:
Hehehe.
I found a site with a list of links to historical finds of mail. Many of them at non alternating.
I just ordered a Hauberk that's non alternating riveted.
It's pretty interesting
http://modernchivalry.org/forum/index.php/topic,3013.msg46013.html#msg46013

Sir William:

--- Quote from: Baron de Magnan on 2014-02-17, 19:28:05 ---I believe maille leggings wouldn't be appropriate for the average Norman knight. Only King Harold and Duke William are depicted in the Bayeux Tapestry as wearing maille leggings. Additionally, though gamebsons can be documented to as early as the late 10th century, they didn't become widespread until the 13th century. To be more representative, I'd skip the gambeson and maille leggings.

--- End quote ---

I disagree about the gambeson in that I wouldn't "skip it".  Having worn heavy gauge hauberks over just thin under clothing I can tell you it is most uncomfortable after a few hours.  Even a thin gambeson can make all the difference- you don't see the really thick ones until the 13th C but you don't necessarily need one unless you're going to fight in it and are worried about blunt force trauma.  Unless you're going for a full custom piece, a lot of off-the-rack gambesons won't run you much more than $149, give or take.  Some are better than others, of course...my last one wasn't a historically accurate design, but it was custom-made for me and I think I paid that much or slightly more, but it included shipping from Ukraine (which was just bananas to me).

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