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Sir Vander Linde:
I only know pike-pie (imaging a family style pie, with the whole fish and what not vegies and spices in side a long pastry). I'll try to get the recipe from my grandpa's sister.

here is one that is similar.
http://neilcooksgrigson.blogspot.com/2012/01/328-salmon-in-pastry-with-herb-sauce.html

Bradamante:
Sir Nate,

I have two book suggestions for you that I read while I was performing research for my novel. The first is The Medieval Kitchen: Recipes from France and Italy by Odile Redon, Francoise Sabban, and Silvano Serventi. The second is Fast and Feast: food in Medieval Society by Bridget Ann Henisch.

Those two books were fascinating. I didn't realize that during periods of fasting such as Lent, Advent and the regular fast days of Wednesdays, Fridays, and Saturdays that there was a mandatory abstention from not only meat, but also dairy products. That meant no cheese or eggs. Seafood was fine because it was of the sea and not of the earth.

One weird passage in the Fast and Feast book is found on page 47:


--- Quote ---The rule forbidding meat on a fast day was the one most strictly enforced and conscientiously obeyed, but some desperate ingenuity was applied to the definition of meat and fish. Reluctantly it had to be conceded that the beaver was a mammal, even though he spent so much of his life in the water, but his tail, being covered with scales, looked distinctly fishy. It was permissible, therefore, to brighten a fish menu with a dish of beaver tail.
--- End quote ---

I could not include any mention of beaver meat in my story because it would have stopped the forward narrative flow. I can just imagine my readers looking up from their books and saying, "BEAVER TAILS? Whaaaaaaa?"

But I do pull that anecdote out to amuse and entertain people when discussing medieval history. Like today.  ;D

Sir Wolf:

--- Quote from: Sir Nate on 2013-09-05, 16:32:46 ---drinking out of the river thames would be a death sentence.lol.

--- End quote ---

lol i walked around in the thames when the tide was out. :)

Sir Nate:
well I do have a medieval celebrations book, that tells me how to make alot of clothing and foods.

Ian:
A fun but good resource for medieval and renaissance food is the Game of Thrones cookbook A Feast of Fire and Ice

It takes food inspired by the TV show and books, but it actually backs them up with primary sources from the 14th and 15th centuries or the renaissance (some recipes are a bit more modern and go into Victorian era).  It gives each recipe twice.  A particular dish is given using modern ingredients, and then the recipe is duplicated with more authentic medieval ingredients and often with text from an original medieval 'cookery book.'

It's a cool dose of fantasy, based quite firmly in history that will grant you some insight in to medieval and renaissance cooking.

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