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Very cool video of making period riveted mail
« on: 2013-05-08, 21:53:09 »


very cool video, not period techniques but makes very good mail:


and the last one I've found


and then a very good article on Arador I'm sure most of you know of:
http://www.arador.com/articles/chainmail.html
also from Arador is this article on making your own riveted mail tools from store bought tools, easiest one to understand that I've found:
http://www.arador.com/construction/forth2.html

and lastly, something that isn't period, but looks pretty good and is quite easy, if there is such a thing for riveted mail lol:
http://armourarchive.org/essays/rivet_revgeorge/

pretty cool as a whole, I'm going to try my hand at a smaller setup not needing a big anvil since I currently live in an upstairs apartment.  I'll be making a tube-type setup to mash the mail, everything else I'm good to go.  First though I'll be finishing up my prototype kit of butted mail, then on to this.  But Sir Ulrich wanted the resources I've found, so here y'all go!

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Re: Very cool video of making period riveted mail
« Reply #1 on: 2013-05-09, 01:35:21 »
After watching the first video, and having tailored riveted maille in the past.  I would rather be waterboarded, then make a haubergeon using those techniques.
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Re: Very cool video of making period riveted mail
« Reply #2 on: 2013-05-09, 02:14:01 »
After watching the first video, and having tailored riveted maille in the past.  I would rather be waterboarded, then make a haubergeon using those techniques.

It definitely helps one appreciate all the work involved lol  ;D beyond that though, I hate tailoring mail garments.  I'd actually rather be waterboarded than tailor mail personally! For some reason it gets all messed up lol
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Re: Very cool video of making period riveted mail
« Reply #3 on: 2013-05-09, 05:09:28 »
Oh look! You can throw money at the problem!
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Re: Very cool video of making period riveted mail
« Reply #4 on: 2013-05-09, 05:57:23 »
Oh look! You can throw money at the problem!

 ;D LOL as an old gunnie of my used to say "throwing money at the problem is for pansies!" lol but not so rated PG
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Re: Very cool video of making period riveted mail
« Reply #5 on: 2013-05-09, 08:29:48 »
Ah, the first one I have seen before as well as the second one. But the first video disappeared now it seems to of been updated. I notice he doesn't drill the holes to put the hole for the rivets in the maille. He uses a drift for round ring maille, thats how it is made correctly, punching it actually weakens the link and metal, as well as makes the rivets more likely to pop. The second video that guy IS making maille the historical way, he's just using wedge rivets instead of round, which wedge riveted links are period from the mid 13th century but only in Germany, by the 14th it spread outward, judging by what I have read from Dan Howard's writings and posts on MyArmoury. I dont think I could ever make my own riveted maille looking at these videos, maybe I could make something small like a pair of mittens or a standard or maybe a ventail to add to my coif, but a full hauberk with an integrated coif? I'd rather just pay for it with money, would take less time earning the money and paying someone to do it. But still interesting stuff.

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Re: Very cool video of making period riveted mail
« Reply #6 on: 2013-05-09, 13:39:17 »
After watching the first video, and having tailored riveted maille in the past.  I would rather be waterboarded, then make a haubergeon using those techniques.

Geez, the amount of time he had to spend on individual links just to flatten them is crazy. At least the annealing, tempering, acid cleaning, and polishing were done on multiple rings or an assembled section.
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Re: Very cool video of making period riveted mail
« Reply #7 on: 2013-05-09, 18:30:57 »
Sir James, any chance can you link your leather edging post to my thread I started up above? that'd be great!

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Re: Very cool video of making period riveted mail
« Reply #8 on: 2013-05-10, 04:51:43 »
Many thanks Sir James!

I think all the videos are quite good, for their own reasons.  I'm looking forward to making my own from scratch, but then again, I'm also nutso like that too.  My plan is to enter a final piece into an Arts & Sciences competition, but also mainly just for my further research into experimental archaeology.  Again, I totally admit to being a bit nutso, even though my mom had me tested  ;D  I'm also trying to figure out a way to speed up the assembly line process on the hammering of the rings.  That's about the only part that so far, I haven't seen anything on yet.
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