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Lord Dane:

--- Quote from: Ian on 2013-04-05, 11:12:16 ---Does that style of armor lend itself more to the style of fighting that makes one successful in the heavy lyst?  I just find the ratio counter-intuitive because generally speaking Western European medieval culture is usually the more commonly reproduced culture everywhere else.

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The armor certainly does have its advantages but it must also coincide with the disadvantages in the fighter's skill level and fighting style in Western vs. Eastern. I have taken some Eastern style armor pieces and managed to make them work in my Western style kits effectively. My background is in Eastern style martial arts & weapon styles but I have adapted to learning Western style fighting techniques. It does help to be lightweight in foot combat against multiple opponents with Eastern armor being more advantage in mobility, visibility. However, in heavy list combat against singular opponents, the Western style armor gives better protection but lessens in other areas mentioned. So it comes down to weighing the two against each other.

Sir Vander Linde:
I think it has to do with effort, when it comes to maintaining the armor, its use, and its acquisition. Many of the guys I talk too more often than not don’t know much about the historical fighting tactics and their kits, most of them just do it for fun, and power to them for that.
 So why all the eastern kits? Easy to make, easy to acquire, and the average Joe for the most part knows nothing about the eastern parts of Europe, so they can get away with a little more stuff. (Many of the SCA guys by me tend not to know anything at all and call themselves swords-men even though they have never fought with a sword; they are more like LARPers with rattan instead of foam. It could and most likely is different elsewhere but by me that is how it is   :-\)

Lord Chagatai:
For me I use an Eastern style kit because it is more to my persona than anything else. The other reason is, I built it myself (great satisfaction) and it was fairly inexpensive to do, the helmet was the most expensive part. When I first started I used a more western style kit and it was so cumbersome I was failing as a fighter and couldn't fight very well. By changing my kit, I was able to move better and fight better. My knight is training in sabre style sword fighting and this kit makes it easier to do that. I took great pride in building my own stuff. I also did cause a mongol warrior would use what he found as armor if it was still in go working order so the look that I use works good for that part of the persona history. If you have other questions let me know...


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Rhydderch:
I am not sure about the SCA, but I just had a discussion with our local group's blacksmith (we are part of the Adrian Empire) about this. For Adria, it seems that only European armor allows for a person to meet the safety requirements imposed by the organization.

Sir James A:

--- Quote from: Sir Vander Linde on 2013-04-05, 14:45:08 ---Easy to make, easy to acquire, and the average Joe for the most part knows nothing about the eastern parts of Europe, so they can get away with a little more stuff.
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That would be my guess.

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