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Title: what do you think? info for my 14thc kit
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2011-01-03, 17:57:58

is this helmet: http://www.therionarms.com/reenact/therionarms_c1131.html (http://www.therionarms.com/reenact/therionarms_c1131.jpg) this helmet:http://www.merctailor.com/catalog/images/illustration%20a.jpg (http://www.merctailor.com/catalog/images/illustration%20a.jpg) with mail attached? or do you think it is a bassinet with shorter sides?

also looking at:
http://www.therionarms.com/reenact/therionarms_c967.html falchion
http://www.therionarms.com/reenact/therionarms_c1219.html baselard dagger

Title: Re: what do you think? info for my 14thc kit
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-01-03, 18:29:17

I think you could get away with that. My understanding is that during this time, the bascinets were evolving out of the steel-plate arming caps that were getting integrated with the mail coifs that were initially worn under great helms. So there's some transitional helms in here that weren't true bascinets but shorter versions of them with mail attached. I could be wrong, of course. But I think you could make that work.

Title: Re: what do you think? info for my 14thc kit
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-01-03, 22:24:38

I concur with Sir Edward. You could go with drilling holes to attach the aventail directly to the helm without using vervelles.  :-\

Title: Re: what do you think? info for my 14thc kit
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2011-01-03, 22:45:43

i think i could just take out that bottom row of rivets and attach the aventail on a internal piece of leather and re rivet it back on.

Title: Re: what do you think? info for my 14thc kit
Post by: Sir James A on 2011-01-03, 23:01:33

Quote from: Sir Wolf on 2011-01-03, 22:45:43

i think i could just take out that bottom row of rivets and attach the aventail on a internal piece of leather and re rivet it back on.

That sounds like a good plan. Make sure to have a couple extra-long rivits for the ones that go through the helmet, the aventail strap, and the chin straps too.

Title: Re: what do you think? info for my 14thc kit
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-01-03, 23:56:47

It's kind of hard to tell at the angle of the photo but I'm afraid those rivets may not go all the way around the circumference of the helm thereby making the way the aventail drapes down sort of lopsided.  :-\

Title: Re: what do you think? info for my 14thc kit
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2011-01-04, 01:30:12

(http://www.therionarms.com/reenact/therionarms_c1131b.jpg)

just not sure if it is deep enough

Title: Re: what do you think? info for my 14thc kit
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-01-04, 08:23:31

Cool they do go all the way around! Why not replace the rivets entirely with vervelles? :)

Title: Re: what do you think? info for my 14thc kit
Post by: Sir William on 2011-01-04, 20:24:15

I can't see a darned thing...will check out from home.  I say, if it looks cool to you- run with it.  The great thing about the transitional period is there is some wiggle room w/regard to authenticity, right?