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Main => The Armoury => Topic started by: Sir Wolf on 2008-02-21, 22:34:48
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http://store.fastcommerce.com/prod_icefalcon_ff808181179c9ac201179db4fc983de7.html
prob best price on shirts
http://store.fastcommerce.com/prod_icefalcon_ff808181179c9a5701179d6a158f2631.html
average price on coifs
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Cool! I like the hauberks. Don't much care for the way the coif sits though. Just a personal preference.
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yes i agree 100% there
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http://store.fastcommerce.com/prod_icefalcon_ff808181179c99bb01179d72db2030f2.html
You know, this aventail could probably be changed into a fauld without too much work.
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ya for someone with a little girly waist ;) hehehehe.
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Haha, hence the modification. :)
Yeah it's possible. Int he photo it looks like it's doing a fairly even expansion rather than triangles or trapezoids seamed together. Maybe if the inside edge were opened with a few slits, and then create belt loops between the slits or something, it might work. I wonder about the outer circumference though and whether the whole thing would sit right.
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Found a very low priced riveted Aluminum haubergeon for under $300.00!
(for those of you with the slender builds...a little over that for beefier guys like me) :-[
http://www.swordorswords.com/acatalog/Mail_Haubergeon_Riveted_Aluminum_.html (http://www.swordorswords.com/acatalog/Mail_Haubergeon_Riveted_Aluminum_.html)
hmm time for me to start saving my pennies! ;)
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That's actually a surprisingly good price for riveted aluminum mail. The CAS/H version retails for considerably more:
http://casiberia.com/product_details.asp?id=AB2476 (http://casiberia.com/product_details.asp?id=AB2476)
As does the MRL version:
http://www.museumreplicas.com/museumreplicas/detail.aspx?ID=328 (http://www.museumreplicas.com/museumreplicas/detail.aspx?ID=328)
Man, if this stuff were available like this back in 2000, I'd probably never have made my own, and just gotten this.
One thing to take into consideration though, is that by-the-sword doesn't have a matching riveted aluminum coif. MRL and CAS have theirs though:
http://casiberia.com/product_details.asp?id=AB2564 (http://casiberia.com/product_details.asp?id=AB2564)
http://www.museumreplicas.com/museumreplicas/detail.aspx?ID=330 (http://www.museumreplicas.com/museumreplicas/detail.aspx?ID=330)
But with riveted mail, you're kinda stuck with how they design the fit of it. MRL doesn't have a good picture of their coif, and I haven't seen it up close either, but I have their mild-steel coif from back around 1999 or 2000. I hate the way it sits. It bunches up around the front of the neck and hangs from the chin, rather than getting the nice contouring that my aluminum coif has.
The CAS/H coif linked above does a little of this too, but not nearly as badly, as far as the picture seems to show.
The MRL photo for the mild steel doesn't show what I'm talking about very well, since they had the guy stand in such a way that it flattened out:
http://www.museumreplicas.com/museumreplicas/detail.aspx?ID=334 (http://www.museumreplicas.com/museumreplicas/detail.aspx?ID=334)
I suspect that the problem is that they started the triangular expansions just below the chin, rather than the base of the neck.
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Ice Falcon apparently just restocked a lot of their mail. I'm hoping this means my standard will be in soon...
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I'm hoping my voiders come soon too, i ordered them in feb/march time frame :(
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I'm hoping my voiders come soon too, i ordered them in feb/march time frame :(
Yeah, that's when I'd ordered my standard.
I definately will want to hear your feedback on the voiders. I almost bought those as well, but decided I'd wait and save for a little while. I'm also concerned that there won't be enough room underneath my cuirass for them, since it fits so well without them.
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just trim them up then heheh. pin the voiders on where they need to go, put the curaiss on and the have someone mark or snip around the edges of the opening.
ya i'll give agood report :) i have a HE standard, i guess its teh same thing
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http://www.swordorswords.com/acatalog/Mail_Haubergeon_Riveted_Aluminum_.html (http://www.swordorswords.com/acatalog/Mail_Haubergeon_Riveted_Aluminum_.html)
Well my new mail arrives tomorrow! I was right at the recommended limit with the large size so
thought it prudent to go up to the next size. Judging from the weight of the shipping info it will
be 21 pounds lighter than my steel. - Feels better already! ;)
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I'll have to take a look at yours at some point. The price is very appealing. By the looks of it, I could probably sneak by with a medium. Of course, it would be bitter irony for me to order one right when I'm finally finishing the one I've been making for about 8 years. :)
You'll definitely appreciate the weight! I can wear my aluminum stuff all day without any discomfort at all. My shoulders and back will ache from carrying the helm instead! :)
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Isn't that always the way though? ;)
I am still undecided if I should get it anodized in a brass finish or not. I haven’t found many
reliable references to brass mail being used in the time period of my harness, so it just might
only be an affliction of vanity on my part. :-\
Still the brass appearance of my old mail was bit fetching in my eyes. :D
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I could be wrong, but I think there is precedent, just not necessarily for the whole hauberk. I seem to recall seeing some historical pieces that had some brass links at the edges, and one owned by some notable figure that had a diamond (lozengy) pattern. But take it with a grain of salt since I don't know the accuracy of this.
But you know my usual philosophy.. if you like it, do it. :) But the plain aluminum finish will look just fine too. Can't wait to see it!
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Well here is some picts of my new rivetted mail. I knew it was going to be lighter
but omg! :o
The entire haubergeon is only a little heavier than just my steel coif! The sleeves
are not exactly "short" as described but I'll make do.
I'm going to have both the haubergeon and coif anodized in a brass finish since
I want to still have the option of wearing a coif with my first helm.
What do you all think? - Besides finally finding out what they did with all those
old style "flip tops" from the beer and soda cans! ;)
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Tah908/My%20Kit/Mail001.jpg)
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Tah908/My%20Kit/Mail002.jpg)
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Tah908/My%20Kit/Mail003.jpg)
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Hey, it looks great! Yeah, the nice thing about aluminum, anodized or not, is it will retain its finish very well. Don't have to worry about rusting, etc.
I had originally planned on 3/4 sleeves for mine as well, but stopping at the elbow seemed pretty nice. I suppose if you wanted to shorten the sleeves up, you could always pull out some wire cutters and cut off a few rows. I see they made the sleeves fairly generous in diameter to.
I'm sure you can see why I made mine in aluminum instead of steel. The weight is about 1/3 for the same amount of metal, but you knew that, I'm sure. :)
I love the sparkly look that the camera flash creates when the mail is all new an clean. :)
You know, I think I've actually heard of people making mail from soda/beer can tops, and also key rings. It's crazy.
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Ice Falcon apparently just restocked a lot of their mail. I'm hoping this means my standard will be in soon...
My standard came today. Its alright, but I'm a little disappointed. I got the kind with the smaller rings, but I didn't realize they came with some sort of modern black coating on them, as if they were dipped in teflon. They also look pretty ahistorical, as they have the same look as the typical mass-produced stuff such as what MRL sells. Yes, I know that pretty much all mass-produced mail isn't going to be completely accurate, but some stuff is definately closer than others, and this one isn't. Oh, well. I suppose if I tumble it in sand, the black may come off, and maybe I'll have something that isn't too bad looking.
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which did u get? see the other post for directions