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Main => The Armoury => Topic started by: Sir Wolf on 2009-01-17, 16:30:22
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just showing a lil update. this will be the marker for this kit. you all know about the new great helmet. here is the mail hauberk and the mittens for it. the shirt is a 3/8s inch ring, 16 guage mild steel. the shirt had 1/2 to 3/4 tube type sleeves. the sleeves required tapering and lengthing. i have gotten the one side done and started on the other side tapered to were I have to start adding the length. once the sleeves match I have to make the mail for the mittens and sew it on, and then attach them to the sleeve cuffs. then I need to prob add 6 inches to the length of the shirt and put the front and back splits into it. then it'll be done and thus will start the mail greave portion... sigh. anywho, heres few pictures. i don't have a starter pic, but you can look at the Museum Replicas mail shirt and see what it looked like. I did not notice till I started tapering the sleeves that they are a 45 degree sleeve rather than a straight T sleeve. pretty cool. If Sir Edward remembers the Red Rwarf 45 degree, we could never quite get our arms to move high enough in those. :)
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the mittens are leather mittens from Tractor Supply. They had some stuffing in them, so I ripped that out. They were also rather large and had extra material that got in the way when gripping a sword. So i turned them inside out, had the wife mark the edges of my hand, and re sewed them up. then i cut off the excess and turned them right side out. I got the left hand a little tight but it will be ok I think. I can grip the sword nicely with it too. I will sew the mail to the top side of them leaving a little bit of extra in teh rows so the hand can move properly and not pull the stitching of the mail.
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Yeah, the angle on the sleeves on this is FAR BETTER than Red's 45-degree sleeves. Those were crazy. The seam between the mail patterns went up at a 45-degree angle through the chest and shoulder, making it difficult to change. At least on this, it's more like a regular tube sleeve, attached on a curved shoulder/armpit like a shirt.
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Looks pretty snazzy Sir Wolf! :)
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Hand sewn leather...OUCH my hands are having sympathy pains! ;)
Great idea with the mittens though! Can't wait to see them all finished! :)
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list making for myself to do yet:
gotta put a liner in my helmet
make a mantle etc
make new surcoat
clean hauberk
add mittens
first order the mittens you dummy
paint shield
take leather knees off padded chausis
add point holes to chausis
clean up soup can knees and add point holes
fix greaves.
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That's quite the list! Can't wait to see it in the works!
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list making for myself to do yet:
gotta put a liner in my helmet
make a mantle etc
make new surcoat
clean hauberk
add mittens
first order the mittens you dummy
paint shield
take leather knees off padded chausis
add point holes to chausis
clean up soup can knees and add point holes
fix greaves.
why do you have to do that? I actually added some padded leather knees to my quilted chausis for
extra chaffing protection. :-\
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list making for myself to do yet:
gotta put a liner in my helmet
make a mantle etc
make new surcoat
clean hauberk
add mittens
first order the mittens you dummy
paint shield painted primer coat on
take leather knees off padded chausis
add point holes to chausis
clean up soup can knees and add point holes done
fix greaves.
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list making for myself to do yet:
gotta put a liner in my helmet
make a mantle etc
make new surcoat
clean hauberk
add mittens
first order the mittens you dummy
paint shield have black part finished.
take leather knees off padded chausis
add point holes to chausis
clean up soup can knees and add point holes done
fix greaves.
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actually got a lil further this evening than this. have the lion carbonized on and the seashells are detailed. I should have the lion painted and detailed tomorrow. if so then I'll touch up the pewter color some and then seal the entire shield and be done one more project.
I also marked the point holes on the padded chausis so might get those sewn tomorrow as well.
now, I need to get some simple green or mineral spirits to de-grease my mail...
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Looking great! I can't wait to see the new shield!
We need another group photo at MDRF again, this time with shields and everything. :)
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Sounds good but don't forget we still need a picture of us doing a grand melee with our deadly spurs! :D
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I almost forgot about that! The challenge has been made. Spurs at dawn!
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dawn? you don't get to faire till at least noon! whata you know about dawn! hehehe
oh here is todays updates so far.
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I make opening gate, occasionally!
Man, that's looking great!
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No Noon might work...It may take that long for us to find each other! ;)
Sir Wolf your shield looks fantastic! Really very well done indeed! :)
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almost there. have to touch up some of the grey tonight and then spray it with sealer. its been a fun project. the color is more crimson like the flash picture. dunno why it looks orange without the flash
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Without the flash, you're getting the poor color of indoor lighting (incandescent is very yellow, for instance, it's just that your eyes/brain adjust for it and the camera does not). You either need to set the white-balance on the camera first or adjust it later in photoshop or something.
Looking great!
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got 1 coat of sealer on it. will put another on before bed and prob another tomorrow.
now tomorrow i hope to degrease my mail as well as make a mantle/torse?) for my helm... what were the directions again? help guys? help? heheh
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Heater looks amazing Sir Wolf! Kudos on a job well done!!!! ;D
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The mantle should be your primary color and metal. The torse is suppose to be the primary color & metal
of your lady but since you have two colors and the same metal you can get away with using the other
combination of color/metal for your torse.
i.e. Have a mantle in Red/White and a torse in Black/White. Or Have a mantle in Black/White and a torse in
Red/White. You could also go with the mantle having the same color/metal combination as your surcoat and
have the other combination as your torse.
The mantel I made is a simple approximately 1' by 2' piece of cloth of each color and sewn them together.
The torse can be simple or tricky depending on how you want to go about it. If you want to use roping
like Sir Edwards than you need to find the thickness and colors that you will be happy with. If you want
to make them like mine you need to make two tubes of fabric approximately 32" - 40" then turn them outside
in after sewing and fill them with rope batting, which comes in various thicknesses. Tie off the ends and twist
them together.
VOILA you are done! :)
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the mantle is done. just need to hand sew the sides back so they don't flap in my face. The torse is half way done. The mantle is black and grey and the torse is black and red.
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awesome, just found out that the place you guys got your helm crests has a goat too. he sent me a pic!! might have to wait till a later time but at least I know I can get one!
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The mantle looks great!
I'm a little puzzled by the grey though. Is that suppose to be a metal or color?
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grey is a metal. grey and white can replace each other. its a little dark but it's all I had. when I order some linen to replace my black surcoat I'll get some grey linen (this is lite wool) and redo my mantle
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list making for myself to do yet:
gotta put a liner in my helmet DONE. made a cheapie one for now, will do a proper one later. at least the helm won't sit on my shoulders like last year.
make a mantle DONE. Mantle and Torse are finished.
make new surcoat maybe next year
clean hauberk DONE. Not perfect but its as good as I can get it
add mittens Ordered
first order the mittens you dummy See above
paint shield DONE.
take leather knees off padded chausis DONE.
add point holes to chausis DONE.
clean up soup can knees and add point holes DONE.
fix greaves.
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Add mail to cover calves, attached to padded chausis DONE.
so all I've really got to do is make some greaves if I can and attach the mittens to the hauberk when they come. :) Not too bad for a week without the wife and kids.
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...Not too bad for a week without the wife and kids.
AH-HA! Now I know why you suddenly had all this free time to work on your projects!
It also helps to keep your mind off missing them! ;)
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http://s596.photobucket.com/albums/tt47/reenactthis/13thc%20Knight/ helmet
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Stylin!
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Looking real good! Well done on the torse! :)
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add mittens Ordered
first order the mittens you dummy See above
Boy these things are like big oven mitts! :)
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pictures!!!!! please ;)
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wow pretty cool man!! can't wait to see them. how are they sewn onto the mitten? wondering if we could tailor them down a little
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They're a little big on me, I think, and they don't close into a fist real well. I'm tempted to take my pair apart, and use the mail to sew it onto a set of regular leather gauntlets (separating the mail into individual fingers, etc). It also probably wouldn't be hard to take the mail off, reduce the size of the leather, and put the mail back on. The same amount of mail in a smaller space would give it more stretch and compression to allow better flex.
The mail is sewn on in a very simple way. All they did was spiral-stitch a cord around the edges.
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Heh, well at least the makers of that pair didn't maille the palms as well like the first pair of
maille gauntlets I bought over a year ago. Those stupid things wouldn't allow you to even make
a fist! :D
The size of the rings usually don't help matters either, speaking of which, if you're going to
go to all that trouble of modifying that pair, why don't you just purchase a couple of sheets of
that smaller ring welded maille from the ring lord and sew them onto a pair of gloves? :-\
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That's an option too, of course, though I already own these. Heh. :) I haven't decided yet. The rings on these are similar in size to the ones in my hauberk, and smaller rings would be nice. I'll have to think on it.
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When I get back to work on my Teutonic Knight in the off season, I want to try my hand at making gauntlets with scale backs and mail palms. I know this isn't really functional (as previously pointed out) or techinically period, but for looks and intimidation they would really kick ass!
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i dunno about the mail palms. you'd never be able to grip a sword.
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i dunno about the mail palms. you'd never be able to grip a sword.
Yeah I already know that, these would be completely just for looks and coolness factor. I think the most hand protection I'd like to fight in would actually be plain leather gauntlets. That's just my personal preference though.
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my legs. i really want to get the galv. off the mail, but that will have to wait till next summer.
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Looking good!
We need to find a time to get the mail gaunts over to you as well.
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ya. i will be at her moms in 2 weeks i think. maybe i can slip down with my hauberk and see how they match up :)
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As in the weekend of the 12th? WMAW weekend? :)
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Nice legs!
(I'm glad this post is in the armoury, that kind of compliment could be seriously misconstrued! ;) )
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i think I'll add a small waist belt. too bad you can't see my knees or very much of my padded chausis.
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Looking good! Can't wait to get a group photo of all of us later in the season.
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Looks great!
We'll be able to see your leg armor better when you walk around! ;)
btw, I just realized that you have to rename the subject title of this thread! :D
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I do like the padded cuisses and knee cops ;)
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