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Main => The Courtyard => Topic started by: Silvanus on 2013-10-11, 12:44:10
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In the course of my training career, the weapon I have the most trouble defending against are maces. Over the years I have been whacked over the kidneys, the groin, both shins, and - just this past week - the side of my head.
I usually fight without a shield, as I normally train with a hand and a half rebated Badger or a two hand. I can defend against other swords, but maces....
How have you all defended successfully against a mace?
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well from a no proffesional stand point. I think maybe hitting the arm there using to swing the mace while there swinging it at you.
redirect it?
idk.
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In the course of my training career, the weapon I have the most trouble defending against are maces. Over the years I have been whacked over the kidneys, the groin, both shins, and - just this past week - the side of my head.
I usually fight without a shield, as I normally train with a hand and a half rebated Badger or a two hand. I can defend against other swords, but maces....
How have you all defended successfully against a mace?
Assuming that the one with the mace also has a shield/buckler, then only comparison I have to bring into this discussion is a longsword vs. a sword & buckler which can be quite a challenge since you must attack and defend with your blade and yet have a distinct range advantage. Thus I would suggest maintaining that advantage for as long as you can and avoid going into any binding actions.
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well from a no proffesional stand point. I think maybe hitting the arm there using to swing the mace while there swinging it at you.
redirect it?
idk.
From someone who has battled maces in the past (SCA fighting) redirecting and then striking is the way to go....I usually would strike the arm that is swinging and then go in for the kill shot. Just 2 cents from an SCA fighter
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From a philosophy standpoint....
Miyagi say ...."No be there, no get hit."
From a training instructor & fighter standpoint....
Best way to match a single-handed blunt instrument defensively is with a defensive instrument designed for it. Round shields in conjunction with any other single-handed instrument particularly axes, maces, flails, etc. work well together so long as you coordinate your skill and attack. Learn to interchange your left and right hands to work together skillfully & fluently.
Best part about shields is that make great offensive weapons as much as defensive tools. Use them to strike back in close quarters & trap your opponents by confining their movements that interlock them or create closed-space combat situations. Give them no movement & kill them or don't be there for the strike. Only options. The Spartans or Greek Hoplites did this battle skill-set best I think. Romans & Vikings followed in their footsteps ...
Hope this helps Silvanus. I use round shields typically 24-36 inches made of steel. Good defensive coverage with a solid striking surface. Proper positioning matters. Smother your oppenent in close quarters. Give them nothing to throw or room to move. Hit him hard. I'll show you some disarming techniques at MDRF. Distance is an advantage with a reach weapon like longsword offensively or for retreating defensively only. Fight on equal footing is my opinion.
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From someone who has battled maces in the past (SCA fighting) redirecting and then striking is the way to go....I usually would strike the arm that is swinging and then go in for the kill shot. Just 2 cents from an SCA fighter
I agree as a long time SCA fighter. Also playing a defensive game is a losing proposition against a mass weapon (Do you allow hand striking?). Mass weapons like flow, or as I tell folks, make the openings and allow the mace to find them, what you need to realize is that you can change directions faster but he can blow through a block.
Interrupt his flow or get him on the defensive and remember that Maces were popular weapons on the battlefield for good reason. THey can be pure nightmares to fight against.
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Was this an SCA battle Silvanus? I also feel for all the two-hander LS training I've done (which may not be much compared to others here), when fighting shield-bearing opponents I also feel more comfortable also using a shield - be it facing mace or one-handed sword.