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Title: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Sir Brian on 2013-10-07, 22:00:57
Well look what my lovely wife purchased for me this Sunday @ the MDRF for our wedding anniversary! Grichels is selling off some excess hides and they had this lovely shade of green that I've been looking for to make my CoP with!  ;D

So, I had purchased a full hide dyed black several weeks ago and now do not have a need for it. Anyone interested? I'll take $85 plus shipping?  ???

Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Sir Douglas on 2013-10-07, 22:25:51
About what thickness is the black hide? Is it veg-tanned, chrome-tanned?

Also, good luck on the CoP! That's on my list of to-do projects, though by now that list is longer than both arms put together. ;)
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Sir Brian on 2013-10-07, 23:07:32
My apologies, I stated a full hide but it is a full SIDE of a cowhide. It is vegetable tanned, suede on one side and 5-6 oz weight (.078 to .094 decimal inches thick). You being much thinner than me will be able to cut your CoP into one piece where as I will likely go with two pieces...(we'll pause here a moment for the inevitably BAD bathing suit jokes)... ;)
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Sir Douglas on 2013-10-08, 01:25:40
You being much thinner than me will be able to cut your CoP into one piece where as I will likely go with two pieces...(we'll pause here a moment for the inevitably BAD bathing suit jokes)... ;)

Yep...not gonna touch that one. ;)

We're always on the lookout for good deals on leather. The only place around here that I know of that sells leather is Tandy, and they can be a bit on the expensive side. If the shipping's not too much, that wouldn't be too bad for a whole side. Let me see what my dad thinks and I'll get back to you. :)
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Sir Brian on 2013-10-08, 07:48:19
Shipping shouldn't be more than $10.00 but you can PM me your address and I can find out for sure today and post later.
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Sir Brian on 2014-03-27, 21:36:54
Well my winter project was outsourced to Allan Senefelder who truly outdid himself as the pictures show. I purchased a COP kit from Polar Bear Forge and sent the kit along with the leather hide my wife gave to me for our last anniversary and Allan did the rest! I am now all set for Harnischfechten!  ;D

My friend and newest WMA student Jason Deyo is doing the modeling.
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Allan Senefelder on 2014-03-27, 22:49:11
Brain, i'm very glad your pleased with it.
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2014-03-27, 23:33:06
nice man!
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Sir Patrick on 2014-03-28, 03:27:05
Nice job Allen!
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Aiden of Oreland on 2014-03-28, 04:14:47
I think I know who I am keeping in mind when I make a 14th century SCA kit in about 5 years from now  ::)
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Sir Rodney on 2014-03-28, 04:28:02
That COP is very cool in so many ways!   8)

Thank you for sharing.   :)
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Sir Edward on 2014-03-28, 14:57:40
Hey great!

Now does this mean I can hit you really hard??? ;)
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Sir Brian on 2014-03-28, 14:59:20
Hey great!

Now does this mean I can hit you really hard??? ;)

Sure! IF you can hit me!  :P
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Sir Edward on 2014-03-28, 15:55:03
Hey great!

Now does this mean I can hit you really hard??? ;)

Sure! IF you can hit me!  :P

Touché. ;)
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2014-03-28, 16:16:35
just aim for the fingers
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Sir William on 2014-03-28, 17:47:35
That one's a beaut, Sir Brian; nicely done, Allan, as always.
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Aiden of Oreland on 2014-03-29, 15:07:44
just aim for the fingers

Don't say that! I have had terrible experiences with light sabers...
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Lord Dane on 2014-03-29, 15:57:08
No need to aim for fingers. Just hit him in the thumbs. :P LOL
Nice work Allan & gorgeous CoP Brian. Can you post some pics of the plates laid out inside so I can see the details??
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Sir Brian on 2014-03-29, 15:59:32
Sure, I'll try and get some later today or tomorrow. :)
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Lord Dane on 2014-03-29, 16:04:43
Sure, I'll try and get some later today or tomorrow. :)

I'm not usually into them but I got a good deal on a 14 gauge blackened Sugarloaf helm with a visor and brass cross. Can use it as an alternative look on my black kit. I'll take some pics. It is nice surprisingly. Did not think I would like Sugarloafs.   
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Allan Senefelder on 2014-03-29, 17:32:16
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Can you post some pics of the plates laid out inside so I can see the details??

Dane, its based on the Wisby I COP. Polarbear included a photocopy of how the plates are supposed to be layed out but I noticed during research that the overlap of the side plates was different than the original. I had intended to lay the sides out as the original but Polarbear added extra rivet holes to each plate beyond what was on the originals which in the end had me going with the way Polarbear had them layed out. It in no way detracts from functionality or esthetics. Polarbear included some extra plates including a double of the center plate at the neck which I used for the back to give a little coverage for the spine and to carry the central suspension ring for the lacing support for the ends of the sides at the back. The three ring ( one at the top of the end of each side and one in the center of the back ) laced suspension is the method used on the original Wisby I COP. The original  ring mounts were steel but I opted for brass to keep with the esthetic of Brian's COP. The shoulders on the original were bare steel/iron but Brian had applied a good thick heavy enamel coat to the plates so I covered them with the same green leather the COP is made from and used small brass rivets to secure it to keep the esthetics of the overall look intact.
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Sir James A on 2014-03-29, 20:54:59
Awesome Allan! That turned out really well. I had no idea about the rings part, either.
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Lord Dane on 2014-03-31, 00:35:05
I know Allan. I just wanted to see your handywork. Very nice!!
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Sir Brian on 2014-03-31, 08:23:32
Here is a photo of the inside of the COP.

For the lacing I determined that the best method was for me to loop the tie cord around the top middle ring then pass a bitter end through each lower ring then simply tie a knot to keep it in place. I went with the same type of fancy cord and aglets I use to lace up my surcoat.
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Ian on 2014-03-31, 11:38:45
Looks great on you Sir Brian! 
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Lord Dane on 2014-03-31, 23:56:01
Ditto. Liking it. :)
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Sir Ulrich on 2014-04-01, 04:31:08
Nice, I may have to ask Allan about making one of these once I get a hide and find a maker to make the Visby type 7 kits. I want a Visby type 7 that uses less plates and isnt nearly as long. One I currently got is too heavy to use over maille, Joe Metz rarely uses his coat of plates over his maille for "practicality" reasons as he told me at DoK 2. His is 20 gauge and mine is 16 gauge which is rather thick. I would assume the bigger the plates the lesser the weight along with the plates being thinner.
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Sir Rodney on 2014-04-01, 04:36:34
OK Sir Brian, that fencing kit is pure awesome!

Tell me more about the fencing mask and those finger gauntlets.   :)
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Sir Brian on 2014-04-01, 15:43:18
Thanks! :)

The gauntlets are my ‘FrankenGaunts’ that I cobbled together from three different gauntlets.
My mask I had a good friend paint for me a couple of years ago so it looks like it needs a touch up on it. ;)

http://modernchivalry.org/forum/index.php/topic,2660.15.html (http://modernchivalry.org/forum/index.php/topic,2660.15.html)
Title: Re: CoP: My winter project!
Post by: Sir James A on 2014-04-02, 17:53:45
I'm thinking the rings and lacing are similar to some samurai armor I saw a while back, that fits in a very similar way of wrapping, but with different sized plates in different orientations.