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Main => The Armoury => Topic started by: Sir Ulrich on 2013-05-20, 18:19:00
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I bit the bullet and got myself a good quality great helm by Royal Oak Armory. I got it antiqued as well as lined.
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It may look a bit big on my head, but it fits really snugly above my coif and arming cap, in fact it fits better than any of my other helms less claustrophobic than any other helms I tried on. The vision isnt too bad, just have trouble seeing above and below me but other than that I think I could be fine with it. I got to admit I probably will buy another helm off of him, probably a kettle helm but not anytime soon unfortunately as I'm saving for my trip to Iceland. I DO plan to gear up and wear all of my gear once I get my maille hauberk back from tailoring, then I will be taking photos. Ironically the helm it's based off of is also from the same part of Germany my German ancestors are from.
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Looks great Sir Ulrich. I'm confident now that you've gone ahead and got a good high-quality helm that you now see how much better it is than getting lesser helms you're not really happy with.
Ironically the helm it's based off of is also from the same part of Germany my German ancestors are from.
That's a pretty cool tie in for your kit. It would make a great talking about at DoK 2 for the public.
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Sir Ulrich,
great looking helmet there bud!
I just liked this on facebook too, didn't know it was you! I'll send you a friend request. I've been drooling over their Lough Henney helm for some time now
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You got the Dargen- excellent acquisition; I had no idea it was so big!
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Thanks guys, yeah I think I might stop buying cheapie stuff now, glad I didnt get that GDFB brain bucket which honestly wouldnt look THIS good on me. Would of just ended up sold or on the shelf collecting dust due to being too heavy.
Thats mostly because I got a big head and wear a thick arming cap, thats why it looks big on me also cause I dont have my full kit on. It does feel heavy on my neck so I guess I have to do neck exercises to get used to it, oddly my kettle helm is heavier and I dont seem to have this problem.
One of the ties broke for like no reason though I mailed Jeffery about it and he said he'll send a few spares, I WOULD of fixed it myself but it's glued to the copper pretty well so I guess it broke from being brittle from the glue. Maybe I should tie them on the inside so they dont flap around on the outside?
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wow i like that a lot!!!
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Really nice looking Great Helmet. ;) Don't let it go to your head!! LOL :P I kill me.
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Very nice! I liked it on FB too.
Don't worry about the up and down vision. I think that's common with almost any closed-face helmet.
What do the ties do?
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The ties are there for the liner, I think I might take them out and tie them on the inside so they don't show as much. One of them did break for like no reason, I did message him about it and he said he will send a few spare ones so I can replace easily. Rather helpful honestly, I really like this helm, it's so sleek looking and from the front almost ominous looking, rather intimidating too.
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Ah, liner, gotcha. The antiquing turned out cool too.
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Nice Helm Sir Ulrich. I agree about hiding the ties, are you sure they aren`t meant to be replaced with rivets??
G.
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Thanks guys, yeah I think I might stop buying cheapie stuff now, glad I didnt get that GDFB brain bucket which honestly wouldnt look THIS good on me. Would of just ended up sold or on the shelf collecting dust due to being too heavy.
Be careful Sir Ulrich :D that's a slippery slope my friend. I know plenty of people who love their GDFBs and Hanweis... ignorance can be bliss, and easier on the wallet. I feel the same way honestly, I love going to good armorers and swordsmiths with my wants. Rather than having a collection of sorts that sits around, I'd rather have one or two of each thing, that really works.
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Yeah, I used to always be happy with the lower quality stuff till I saw tons of the high quality stuff IRL at Days of Knights. I handled Joe Metz's, Ed's, and Ian's Albion swords and now I am currently in the process of getting my own but the wait times a lot. I also decided I wanted a high quality Great helm thats custom fitted as the eye slits locations are important. My brother tried on my helm and the slits didn't meet up with his eyes but they do mine. I don't prefer helms with the brass oculars either because it doesn't look nearly as "intimidating" and looks like a "good guys helm" I kinda like the idea of looking "intimidating and ominous" which is partially why I like the Teutonic Order.
I am going to tie the laces on the inside so they don't catch on anything, just a bit worried they'll catch on the coif I am wearing but meh it probably will look better with them on the inside. I LIKE the ribbons better than leather lace though cause the red and patina finish looks cool together, makes it look rather noble looking, most of my belts are red colored too which my heraldry colors are red black white and gold. It matches that which I prefer.
I do have a question for Ed about crests, I kinda want to put one up but not permanently, not sure where to get a carving, I was thinking maybe some animal crest to put on the top or maybe even a sun similar to the one in my coat of arms. I know Ed got a dragon to put on his helm which looks quite good there honestly. I could go for an animal though, probably a wolf, bird, or horse even though there is none in my coat of arms.
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Yeah, non-permanent attachment is tricky. My crest was made by someone online who made them from custom leather. I think they went out of business unfortunately. But the nice thing about it is that it's very light, and has a velcro attachment. So the velcro is "permanent" (in that the sticker velcro stays on the helm), but I can take the crest-base on and off and cover the velcro with the mantle.
I used to put my old crest on with rare-earth magnets. It sort-of worked. The crest was a little too heavy for that method, but didn't fall off or anything like that. I just had to be careful not to dislodge it when putting it in the car, and so on.
I think ideally, bolting them on is best, but it means drilling holes, which I haven't wanted to do.
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Velcro might be a better option than the magnets...velcro won't move, magnets might. I got my crest, mantle and torse is being made now and I think I'm going to have the whole ensemble mated via velcro.
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Guess I will pass up on crests then. I don't want to drill holes in my helm or anything the original probably didn't have a crest attached to it. It looks intimidating enough without one, I was just thinking the wings or horns attached would look cool but apparently I just read that only the leaders of the Teutonic knights had crests on their helms. Of course the Velcro option might be better than bolts, if I ever want to do it later on.
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I just ordered a couple rolls of velcro, let you know how it comes out. Well, as soon as the torse and mantle are done and I get my helm back, that is.
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Ulrich, if you want to do an animal of some kind, have a look at Knightly Arts. I have a couple pics of my crest and a link to his site from mine:
http://james-anderson-iii.com/reviews/pages/knightly-arts/ (http://james-anderson-iii.com/reviews/pages/knightly-arts/)
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Sir James,
(http://james-anderson-iii.com/content/reviews/pages/knightly-arts/large/2012-07-11101555.jpg) THAT is a beautiful helm crest sir!
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Ulrich, if you want to do an animal of some kind, have a look at Knightly Arts. I have a couple pics of my crest and a link to his site from mine:
http://james-anderson-iii.com/reviews/pages/knightly-arts/ (http://james-anderson-iii.com/reviews/pages/knightly-arts/)
If that's Jeremy O'Neail, I'd make very sure that you get a firm timetable and you stay with him; mine got lost in the shuffle for a period of months before he finally made contact w/me. But I can't knock his work, he does some good stuff there.
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Looking good!
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Cool helm!
As far as crests go, we have helms that actually do have holes in them specifically for mounting crests, so it's not that bad. I've got two tiny holes on the top of my helm, and that's it. My entire crest is removable, though it would be a bit of work.
Anyway, my crest is solid wood. I don't really feel the weight, and they are super sturdy. You won't see any other knights lugging about their helms by the crest! ;)
As to historicity, a Teutonic Knight could receive gifts with the permission of his superior. So a helm with a crest could be a gift from your secular family, and you could have it with your Komptur's approval.
Or you could be a high officer, though portraying that gets really really hard with accouterments and encampment.
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Yeah those are some nice crests. Maybe I will get one someday but my helm lacks holes to mount a crest onto it so I assume historically that helm did NOT have a crest. For now I am going without one because I dont want to drill holes in my brand new helm. I DO plan to put the ties on the inside however, and thats mostly for practicality and I think it would look better.
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Sir Ulrich,
you could also always do something fun like this:
(http://www.ageofarmour.com/images/bprincecrest2.jpg) I love the look of those crests and it shouldn't cause any major modification requirements either.
The reason I'm giving you these ideas is your helm appears to be a variant of the helm worn by the Black Prince, maybe something like this too could work
(http://www.azincourt-alliance.org.uk/images/armour/pic_spot_ghelm11.jpg) that's his helm, the crest looks like it's attached in a different way that straight on top.
I do know from experience (I live in hot mohave county) that it definitely helps to have something on over the top of your helm.
I'm debating something fun like this for my secular knight. I'm looking for 13th century stuff on tournaments and the like. My lady doesn't like how austere the Knights Templar are and wanted me to also make a secular kit so she can "dress me up nice and dandy." Oh darn!
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My lady doesn't like how austere the Knights Templar are and wanted me to also make a secular kit so she can "dress me up nice and dandy." Oh darn!
Ahah! Excellent. Once your lady is on board with it, the sky's the limit! :)
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Yeah!! Then you can spend.. spend.. spend... as though with her approval. Good plan!!!! Shop!! Shop!! Shop!!! ;D
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Ahah! Excellent. Once your lady is on board with it, the sky's the limit! :)
Yeah!! Then you can spend.. spend.. spend... as though with her approval. Good plan!!!! Shop!! Shop!! Shop!!! ;D
yeah, one of the perks too, is we do all our own soft kits. I'm no armourer (yet ;D), but all our soft kit, my templar, her hand-stitched 14th cotehardie, my Irish/Spanish Ren kit, and even my period 1660 justacorps cost us barely over $200. It's AWESOME!
The fact she enjoys this stuff almost as much as me (we have debates lol, she's an Art History major, I'm archaeology) is truly the greatest part of all this. I am truly blessed with my lady. 8)
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I have rare earth magnets holding my torse and mantle to my helm (a skop). It works well. It is a bit cheesy, but fun.
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I have rare earth magnets holding my torse and mantle to my helm (a skop). It works well. It is a bit cheesy, but fun.
Any pics? I don't know what a "skop" is. I'm curious about the magnets too vs drilling.
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So when can we expect the helm to have it christening with scraps, dents, and so forth?
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Eh? Using the Black Prince Great Helm as an example, excellent choice! Yep, Helm mantles are easy to set on a great helm and its period accurate.
I am keen to do the same with my 1340 Harness (my real hard kit). Using a GDFB Pembridge Great Helm, and with Fuhlen Designs, awesomeness is bound to happen.