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Main => The Armoury => Topic started by: Sir Ulrich on 2012-09-12, 00:23:10
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I decided that Ulrich is not really all that much a name that would suit a Templar. So I am going Teutonic, I also prefer the black and white to the red and white of the Templar stuff. Ulrich is also a very German name and I think it would suit a Teutonic persona well, also being German myself and a possible descendant of the northern crusades as I am Prussian German on my mothers side from Mecklenburg which was part of Pomerania which was won during the northern crusades. Also where I get my red hair from.
So should I go for the GDFB teutonic stuff? Cause I dont think I got much time to get custom stuff and I think getting the GDFB stuff and tailoring it would work better and would be quicker as well as cheaper. Also need to know what to paint my new shield with. Any help would be appreciated.
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I used Acrylic paint with a sealant to protect from water.
Also, Welcome to the Ranks of the Order! Good Bruder Edvard has the GDFB stuff and it looks to be of good quality. Fits a 13th century persona perfectly. I'm in the 14th century, 1330-60, so I"m going with another custom job from BJ, who is responsible for my other garb.
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Yep, the GDFB Teutonic surcoat and cloak are good for the money, but they will definitely be big on you (they're slightly big on me). But sizing down a surcoat shouldn't be too hard.
I'm doing my shield with spray-paints, but specifically the "matte" or "flat" paints, since they look more like acrylic. The gloss is what makes it look modern.
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look for milk paint online. thats about as close to period paint as you can get now.
http://www.milkpaint.com/ (http://www.milkpaint.com/) link (i have seen theres and its good stuff)
http://www.realmilkpaint.com/products.html (http://www.realmilkpaint.com/products.html)
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Hrm. Looks like it is back to being just me, eh? Suppose I could change my name to Wilhelm. lol
Ulrich, how do you plan on tailoring the GDFB stuff? Might be easy if you have sewing machine or access to a seamstress- like at your local dry cleaners. The good ones usually have a seamstress on site to do alterations on mundane clothes- they could do yours too, you'd just need to have all of your gear on so they can get the correct measurements. I was going to do that myself with some of my surcoats but then I gained 20 lbs and removed the need to do it. For now, anyway.
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Sir William, I've still got Templar gear ... though the mail needs the tailoring finished. ;)
Sir Ulrich, I'd go with the GDFB for Days of Knights time constraints. Having the surcoat taken in, if it's tube-shaped like I'm guessing, would be a good thing. It would be hard to find somebody to do one custom in the short timeframe left.
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Sir James...I have never seen you in it yet...beyond the pics. We need to represent, Sir Nathan's got recruits all over! lol
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Sir James...I have never seen you in it yet...beyond the pics. We need to represent, Sir Nathan's got recruits all over! lol
I might do the Teutonic thing next time we meet. :) I'm sold on it, Sir Nathan. Another Bruder for you!!
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Ordered the tunic and cloak from GDFB. Just need to resize them when they come. Got it in linen to reduce weight but the cloak is in wool.
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Well it came in the mail, I am satisfied with the cloaks fit, it fits me perfectly. The surcoat could use a bit of tailoring on both ends the height is perfectly fine for me though I am not sure if it's too long on me.
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awesome man. good job.
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Excellent. Yeah, you'll find that the surcoat doesn't seem quite as long and roomy once you put it on over armor, and then bind the center with a belt. It still look like you have plenty of room, so taking it in a little might still help. Looks good though!
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Looks good. Keep it long though. A cool trick is that if you have a linen undershirt, you can wear it with the surcoat and create the illusion of a Cappa-Claussa because the colors are similar.
Also, get a rosary to go about your belt and a cross necklace. (can be simple wood, or elaborate metal).
They were warrior MONKS, after all. ;)
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Speaking of which, I have a custom paternoster in the works for my Teutonic kit. Hopefully I'll get it in time for DoK.
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I need to get one of those...a paternoster. Where did you fellows get yours? As a Templar I'm pretty sure mine'll just be wooden beads.
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There are some on Etsy. A few options show up with a google search.
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Checking now...
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Excellent. Yeah, you'll find that the surcoat doesn't seem quite as long and roomy once you put it on over armor, and then bind the center with a belt. It still look like you have plenty of room, so taking it in a little might still help. Looks good though!
As on FB, Sir Edward is spot on. The end shape you'll want is sort of )( but with straight lines >< so that it brings in the waist a bit and makes it look bigger at the chest, smaller at the waist, and flares out towards the feet. That should be easy for any seamstress to do, but make sure you do it over the padding and armor, with a belt, so it gets fitted properly - if it fits right without armor on, it's not going to fit right with it on
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I need to get one of those...a paternoster. Where did you fellows get yours? As a Templar I'm pretty sure mine'll just be wooden beads.
http://www.revivalclothing.com/glasspaternoster.aspx (http://www.revivalclothing.com/glasspaternoster.aspx)
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Ian, thanks for the link. I went with this:
http://www.etsy.com/listing/88720903/paternoster-of-black-wood-and-horn-with?ref=af_you_favitem (http://www.etsy.com/listing/88720903/paternoster-of-black-wood-and-horn-with?ref=af_you_favitem)
What do you think?
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Ian, thanks for the link. I went with this:
http://www.etsy.com/listing/88720903/paternoster-of-black-wood-and-horn-with?ref=af_you_favitem (http://www.etsy.com/listing/88720903/paternoster-of-black-wood-and-horn-with?ref=af_you_favitem)
What do you think?
Looks great! Oh, and I just started a thread to discuss these.
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Got my full Teutonic knight kit together, seems the surcoat does NOT need tailoring now that I put it on over my maille and whatnot it fits just fine. This is hot though mind you, I actually prefer it with the topfhelm rather than the kettle. Still have yet to get my gambeson from badass garb, hope I get it soon cause linen is a LOT better than cotton with poly fill. Any suggestions on how to get my hair not caught in everything. I constantly have to put on my MRL padded coif simply to keep the maille out of my hair when I put it on so I got 2 layers of arming cap over a coif. Maybe I should cut my hair but I like having long hair too much to cut it.
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I have the long-hair problem too. What I do is fold it up over the top of my head before putting the padded cap on. As long as I tie it tightly enough, my hair will mostly stay up there.
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Ulrich, you're looking quite dashing there my friend...one thing, I'd move the sword to hang at the side of your hip rather than the front. I know the images show it that way but you might find it more comfortable and less annoying to not having it bang on your leg every time you take a step or the pommel bite into your stomach when you go to sit down and forget you're wearing a sword...until that happens.
Sir Edward's suggestion for your hair is probably the best one...he normally sports a pony tail and his hair's quite long. Wish I could do it.
I have a personal question though...why do you look so unhappy?
Oh, and one other thing- you'd mentioned earlier that you didn't feel the name Ulrich suited a Templar and I've been meaning to tell you that the Templars weren't just English or French in origin; a good number of them were recruited from the Levant and so they would've been a melting pot mix of Arab, Italian, German, African and other nationalities. Just a thought.
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Yeah I guess that would work better, I sorta threw this all together rather quickly so I wasnt thinking about the sword hanging. My hair is like half down my back and I dont know if I could put it in an arming cap as those almost always come off when I put my maille on.
I look unhappy because smiling isn't period. I looked at tons of photos of people from the 1800s and they all looked rather stern and unhappy so I would assume people in the medieval period would be the same. I sorta try to emulate that rather than look all happy. I am also rather dark and gloomy myself as were the medieval ages which were a dark gloomy time period full of death and destruction I doubt a knight in battle would smile. Plus when I smile I look rather sadistic or crazy as seen here and no it isn't intentional it's just how I smile:
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Now you know why I never smile.
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People aren't smiling in old photography and paintings simply because of the fact that they had to hold poses for a long time. Long photographic exposures require you be incredibly still, and it's hard to hold a smile without moving for 5 seconds. The result would be a blurry photo. Paintings required the subject sit for hours, and holding a smile would be uncomfortable. It has nothing to do with people being stern or unhappy, or hardened by their lives etc... it was just a necessity of the medium they were using to capture an image.
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Yeah, I just dont think it's normal for a knight in battle to smile for a pic, unless it's a smile of victory in the end. I prefer to look stern but it comes off as angry. I actually was trying for a neutral expression but the brightness of the sun makes me squint and look angry. Oh well, no one will see it anyway with my topfhelm on.
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Ulrich, you're looking quite dashing there my friend...one thing, I'd move the sword to hang at the side of your hip rather than the front. I know the images show it that way but you might find it more comfortable and less annoying to not having it bang on your leg every time you take a step or the pommel bite into your stomach when you go to sit down and forget you're wearing a sword...until that happens.
Sir Edward's suggestion for your hair is probably the best one...he normally sports a pony tail and his hair's quite long. Wish I could do it.
I have a personal question though...why do you look so unhappy?
Oh, and one other thing- you'd mentioned earlier that you didn't feel the name Ulrich suited a Templar and I've been meaning to tell you that the Templars weren't just English or French in origin; a good number of them were recruited from the Levant and so they would've been a melting pot mix of Arab, Italian, German, African and other nationalities. Just a thought.
I agree with Sir William. You might want to angle that scabbard slightly especially where it looks as long as your legs. A suspension system would help slightly better than a frog and not make it so clunky banging into your body while you walk.
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Yeah, I just dont think it's normal for a knight in battle to smile for a pic, unless it's a smile of victory in the end. I prefer to look stern but it comes off as angry. I actually was trying for a neutral expression but the brightness of the sun makes me squint and look angry. Oh well, no one will see it anyway with my topfhelm on.
Point taken, but you're not in battle, so don't be afraid to at least crack a smile. You don't have to show teeth. I'm not sure why, but it's hard to peel a smile off my face when I get new armor. :D
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And then there's the maniacal look of glee while you're burying your blade into the gullets and bellies of your enemies...not that I'd know what that looked like on me, per se, but I figure it can't be too far from Jack Nicholson's in The Shining.
Seriously though...don't be afraid to smile, especially at women. Makes you look more inviting, hence lessening their fear of approaching you. ;)
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I can't help it, when posing in kit I usually look "Stern". I try not to look angry though. Very fine line.
Pictures with people, or taken without my knowledge usually sport silly expressions and smiles all about. I love me a good armour day. :)