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Main => The Armoury => Topic started by: Leganoth on 2012-08-15, 03:39:03
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http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=WB009&name=Warbow (http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=WB009&name=Warbow)
Just ordered this, anyone have something similar or this exact bow?
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http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=WB009&name=Warbow (http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=WB009&name=Warbow)
Just ordered this, anyone have something similar or this exact bow?
I have a similar Longbow with a draw weight of 45-50lbs. It's made of solid hickory wood though. Red Oak w/ linen was my last bow & I snapped it in 2. Oops. Not so strong as other materials. If you want a solid bow, I'd get a yew bow or hickory wood. Most durable & reliable.
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Are you going to work your way up for a good ol' English Warbow?
You can go from 50lbs to 150lbs draw weight in 2 years IIRC.
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In that draw-weight range, you might also look at http://woodbows.com/ (http://woodbows.com/), as they have pretty reasonable prices.
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Are you going to work your way up for a good ol' English Warbow?
You can go from 50lbs to 150lbs draw weight in 2 years IIRC.
If I shot it that much....perhaps. I'm not so dedicated to my archery skills but I will focus more time. :)
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red oak and other open pore wood are not very good for bows. at least unbacked that is. i have white ash from england i think.... can't remember. the best is yew, but yew does not do so well in american humidity
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Start getting serious about your bent-over dumbell rows and weighted pull-ups! ;)
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About as serious as my morning coffee chugs & donut dunks??? ;D
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well hopefully it wont snap in 2!, even if it does the website said if it breaks they will replace free of charge! i can pull a 50 pound back pretty easily, i have a 45-50 compound bow, but I wanted to go traditional :)
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well hopefully it wont snap in 2!, even if it does the website said if it breaks they will replace free of charge! i can pull a 50 pound back pretty easily, i have a 45-50 compound bow, but I wanted to go traditional :)
I'm assuming you already know this, but a traditional bow will feel a little heavier than a compound bow (for the same draw weight), since it doesn't give you that mechanical advantage to relax a bit when it's pulled. But it's worth saying, for folks who are new to the subject.
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well hopefully it wont snap in 2!, even if it does the website said if it breaks they will replace free of charge! i can pull a 50 pound back pretty easily, i have a 45-50 compound bow, but I wanted to go traditional :)
A compound bow with a draw weight of 50lbs is going to be a good bit easier than a simple longbow. The compound bow has a levering system which aids in the draw- you'll not have that luxury in a longbow.
Bent over rows with dumbbells and weighted pullups will help with drawing. Imagine you're half hanging off of a ledge with a 50lb weight attached to your arm- pull and release, pull and release and you're mimicking the movement of drawing and releasing an arrow. Longbowmen of the medieval age are purported to have had as much as 200lbs of pressure when drawing an English yew longbow (conservative estimates put it at ~150lbs for the average longbow) - like pulling up a full grown man from that ledge with one arm, each time you draw the bow. I cannot, as of yet, do that.
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Yeah, longbow archers from the time, using bows in the weight range of 150 to 200lbs, typically had to practice for about 2 hours a day to keep up their strength and accuracy. Skeletons recovered from the Mary Rose, a ship that sank with a compliment of archers on it, shows that many of the archers had fused bones in their backs, from all that longbow usage.
If you're going to shoot casually, 50 lbs sounds great. At 150 lbs and more, you need to be serious about being an archer.
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You'll look like something out of Muscle Beach, according to the studies on those archer skeletons...the fused bones they found were that way to facilitate the large muscle mass required to be able to pull a bow of that power 10-12 times a minute. I've heard of some who practice this profession and they're not small men. Its like an entire body workout from what I've read.
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:D
Weapons that Made Britain: The Longbow (Part 1) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPskCGVAsCU#)
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Here are parts 2 & 3 of the show, and it's in part 3 that they mention the Mary Rose wreck:
Weapons that Made Britain: The Longbow (Part 2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnPcyGjYZmc#)
Weapons that Made Britain: The Longbow (Part 3) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-jsvBt2HI0#)
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That's some cool stuff right there.
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Yeah, longbow archers from the time, using bows in the weight range of 150 to 200lbs, typically had to practice for about 2 hours a day to keep up their strength and accuracy. Skeletons recovered from the Mary Rose, a ship that sank with a compliment of archers on it, shows that many of the archers had fused bones in their backs, from all that longbow usage.
If you're going to shoot casually, 50 lbs sounds great. At 150 lbs and more, you need to be serious about being an archer.
That was a crazy discovery!
Compounds are definitely "lighter" at the same draw weight, especially if you have the "aim assist" (or whatever) where it kind of "snaps" into fully drawn position.
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law in england to practice after church. 6-60 year old men. in 15th c
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Yeah, longbow archers from the time, using bows in the weight range of 150 to 200lbs, typically had to practice for about 2 hours a day to keep up their strength and accuracy. Skeletons recovered from the Mary Rose, a ship that sank with a compliment of archers on it, shows that many of the archers had fused bones in their backs, from all that longbow usage.
If you're going to shoot casually, 50 lbs sounds great. At 150 lbs and more, you need to be serious about being an archer.
That was a crazy discovery!
Compounds are definitely "lighter" at the same draw weight, especially if you have the "aim assist" (or whatever) where it kind of "snaps" into fully drawn position.
Already known fact. The Huns used compound bows from horseback with extreme precision long before the English archers trained with heavier Longbows. Longbows aren't exactly ideal bows for mounted soldiers. Standing is only way to use them.
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Already known fact. The Huns used compound bows from horseback with extreme precision long before the English archers trained with heavier Longbows. Longbows aren't exactly ideal bows for mounted soldiers. Standing is only way to use them.
I think you mean composite bows. Compound bows are a modern invention.
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Already known fact. The Huns used compound bows from horseback with extreme precision long before the English archers trained with heavier Longbows. Longbows aren't exactly ideal bows for mounted soldiers. Standing is only way to use them.
I think you mean composite bows. Compound bows are a modern invention.
Yes correct. Yet again I misquote history. :) Composite.
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haha ill be on the safe side and start using my dumbells again, pullups wont be enough :D
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Actually, continual practice with your bow will be your best bet- you'll work the muscles exactly as you need them to...who knows, in time you may step up the weight. Or not.
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i casually lift 15 pound dumbells
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Leganoth, you'll need to do A LOT of reps to build up strength with weights that light...you'd be better off just doing continual shooting with the bow you have. Do you have time and opportunity to shoot? If you get it in at least every other day your muscles are going to form up just due to the routine if nothing else.
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If you don't want to work the bow, use a resistance band instead of a dumbbell. It'll work the same muscles better, IMO.
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SHOOT THE BOW. lol
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My longbow is a bee-atch to restring!!!
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SHOOT THE BOW. lol
Agreed. :) As long as he has the space to do it. At my old place, you couldn't shoot a bow in your own yard, so if you wanted to practice, you had to drive to the nearest range - about a half hour each way. Lacking the space/potential to shoot the bow, I'd settle on resistance bands.
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Yea, if you can't shoot a bow, a resistance band attached to a fence post or column can mimic some of the movement, most of it even. Or he could draw and slowly release (don't let the string go) as a form of isometric workout...without the arrow of course, so he doesn't accidentally shoot it off.
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the backyard is okay for shooting, i hard a target but wear and tear destroyed it lol. Also the fact my family liked to use the bow/crossbow and miss the target which made the arrows/bolts hit the concrete wall...:( with my warbow on the way all I have atm is my crossbow, and compound bow, no arrows or bolts, but I do know where a range is. Do they sell/give you bolts/arrows to use there?
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You probably can buy arrows or bolts at the range- although I've never been I'm assuming its like going to a gun range, where you can buy ammo for just about any gun they carry in the store.
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Maybe, It would be nice, I would be there all day :)
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Got my bow a day and a half ago its pretty cool, am supposed to shoot it today but we only have 3 modern 31' arrows..and they didnt come with tips when they said they would. But anyways these are the only pics i could get of the bow because my family is useless lol
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Excellent!
Yeah, the weak point can be the ammo, for any projectile weapon. You're stuck if you don't have enough. :)
I've found with my crossbow that I want to have at least a dozen, with extras since you'll break one from time to time. I somehow started out with 17 and am down to about 13 now, so I'll have to look for more at some point (and crossbow quarrels aren't as easy to find).
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Leganoth, how tall is that bow? I know you're like what, 6'3", 6'4" right? Maybe its the angle.
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Does look large. Mine is 72" point to point.
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Leganoth, how tall is that bow? I know you're like what, 6'3", 6'4" right? Maybe its the angle.
It is 72"
I will post a pic of my crossbow aswell, the iron sight for it has seemed to gone missing so i have to assume where it will hit :/
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ya period arrows are a pain. nothing like loosing 10 to 20 bucks per arrow when you loose or break one.