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Main => The Armoury => Topic started by: Sir Patrick on 2012-02-21, 15:51:37
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Just got my armour from Allan and thought I'd share. As you can imagine, I'm pretty excited right about now!
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Sweet! Now we need pictures of you wearing them! :)
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Huzzah! Definitely looking forward to more pictures with it all together.
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Same here, Sir Patrick...nice acquisitions, looking forward to seeing it on you.
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sweet!!
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Awesome! Allan makes some fantastic gear! Congrats!!
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I messed around in the armour a little this evening (didn't put my whole kit on, so no pics) and was really pleased with the fit. Greaves fit like a glove and the vambraces had enough room in them I could turn my wrist without any restriction. My only issue (and this in no way reflects on the workmanship) is keeping the elbow and knee cops in place. They want to drop a bit when I move around. They're strapped, but I'm sure one of you guys has a tip on pointing them or something (hint, hint ;))
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I messed around in the armour a little this evening (didn't put my whole kit on, so no pics) and was really pleased with the fit. Greaves fit like a glove and the vambraces had enough room in them I could turn my wrist without any restriction. My only issue (and this in no way reflects on the workmanship) is keeping the elbow and knee cops in place. They want to drop a bit when I move around. They're strapped, but I'm sure one of you guys has a tip on pointing them or something (hint, hint ;))
Of course! :D
Drill two small holes near the strap and buckle rivets, and then point the knee/elbow cops to the mail. The points will keep them in place so they don't sag/shuffle, and the straps on the cops will keep the mail from flopping around as much. This way, the straps don't really keep the cop in place, so much as they keep the mail from flopping around as much. Also, you can point "outside in" by starting the point on the outside of the cop and lacing it inwards on the mail so that the tied portion of the point is inside the mail, sitting on your arming garment. It makes the point minimally noticeable to anybody but the most observant.
I have my knee cops pointed to my chausses; I still need to point elbow cops to my hauberk sleeves (which need tailoring first), but I can take a pic of the legs if my explanation isn't making sense.
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Makes perfect sense. Thanks!
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I have a question about the proper positioning of the bracers. Does the wrist bones go under the bracers or not? If I wear them high they kind of interfere with the elbow cop, but if a wear them low, they interfere with hand movement. Also, the buckles should be in line the thumb, right?
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Nice gear. When'd you commission this? I plan on getting some copps and polyens for the Templar kit, and if Allan is still taking small projects, I'd love to get them from him.
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I had originally asked for those besuagues Allan put up on AA the other day. They had already been snapped up, but he graciously offered to make a pair for me. Things just snowballed from there. I seriously consider myself fortunate that Allan was able to take this on at this point in time.
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i always where mine above the wrist bone. other wise its a nightmare of pain unless they have enough room. can u squeeze the the upper part of the forearm of the bracer so it doesnt interfere as much? or is it a length problem?
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I have a question about the proper positioning of the bracers. Does the wrist bones go under the bracers or not? If I wear them high they kind of interfere with the elbow cop, but if a wear them low, they interfere with hand movement. Also, the buckles should be in line the thumb, right?
I've never done single-plate cop and vambraces, with the exception of my leather stuff, and that's flexible to an extent of course. With articulating arms that are properly built (like Allan does), the compression of the lames at the elbow lets you wear the vambrace over your wrists, and it will slide back a bit to allow full range of motion of your hand as if you were wearing it behind your wrists. Can you get a picture of the interference? I think the standard answer is "it depends". :)
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I'll shoot some pics after work.
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I think with the floating cops and vambraces you have to find that happy median. I wear my splinted vambraces well off the wrists so the longest part of the vambraces is almost to my elbow and then put the cop over it. This method works well for me and a retain sufficient mobility with my arms to manage all the guard positions. :-\
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True. If I wear them high, the longest part overlaps the elbow cop. This doesn't restrict mobility, I just wasn't sure if it was "right". It's one thing to see pics of guys wearing these, it's another to put them on yourself. From that standpoint I'm still a noob.
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The attached pictures are from my knight page and of an earlier version of my armor but they show how I wear mine. One of the reasons why I prefer my gambeson's to have longer sleeves is so I can roll them over the vambrace and help keep the cop pushing the vambrace down onto my wrist to much. The cuff is typically covered with my gauntlets. ;)
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Thanks, Sir Brian. Those pics help a bunch
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OK, so based on Sir Brian's pics and everyone's advice, I changed up where everything sat, and the issues are resolved! Here's a few pics showing the set up over a mundane jacket. The vambrace kind of dropped a little during the photography, but the point slightly overlaps the cop. No effect on mobility though. One last question: Buckles or hinges on top?
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cool, glad it worked out for you. now you can wear the 3/4 length sleeved hauberk like the period pictures where the vambrace is under the mail but the elbow is on top of it.
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Ahh, that Iconic early 14th century look. It's nice look, go for it. :) You don't see too many folks doing that look nowadays.
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now you can wear the 3/4 length sleeved hauberk like the period pictures where the vambrace is under the mail but the elbow is on top of it.
Nailed it, this is something that is not at all uncommon in artwork of the period but that I don't see that many folks do all that much. Very period in terms of look. Ed i'll get you the math on shields, I got lost in 1) the shop all day, 2) gin and tonic and Carlitos Way all night.
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Very cool! One last addition I neglected to mention earlier is making yourself some extra elbow padding in the form of a round small pillow. I made mine out of cotton batting and some extra really thin leather. It makes wearing the cops a lot more comfortable and fit a little better as the straps on your cops will stretch out in time. ;)
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Early 14th century is what I'm going for, so thanks for the advice on how to wear the mailer. Sir Brian, good advice on the padding. I'll add it to my list of projects. Allan, my respect for your skills increases every time I put the pieces on. Thanks again for all of your work!
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Armoured up and got few pics tonight. Sorry if they are a little blurry, but my 9 year-old doesn't have the steadiest hands ;)
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awesome. and you should learn to instill more fear in your child to hold the camera steady...w a it that doesnt work either hahaha jkjk kewl pics!
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Awesome pics! Your kit looks great! :)
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Fantastic! It looks really good!
Does your camera have a timer mode? Some of them let you set a 10-sec timer on a tripod.
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It was my iPhone. Kind of an impromptu session.
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The pictures came out good, and the kit looks great.
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You are looking good sir, dressed to kill as you are!