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Main => The Armoury => Topic started by: Sir Ulrich on 2012-02-04, 01:08:54
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http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=AT306&name=Valiant+Armoury+Norwich+Falchion (http://www.kultofathena.com/product.asp?item=AT306&name=Valiant+Armoury+Norwich+Falchion)
Did knights use falchions like this? This weapon does look at least to me like a knightly falchion crafted as well as a sword would be. Debating on getting it for my upcoming birthday.
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I don't think it would be unheard of.
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Possibly the ones in or near the middle east. It looks like a european sword / shamshir hybrid, so probably came about when somebody decided to make a sword influenced by both styles.
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I been considering it, mainly because I missed out on buying the Castile, but missed my opportunity to do so so I want to get this. Though the castile is my first choice I dunno if a falchion would be period for the "crusader knight" type, or at least one of this model.
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i likez falchions
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I lot of these falchions came about also by sword-hilting what would have otherwise been a messer. The messers were relatively inexpensive (partly because of the less complex hilt) and a therefore were more accessible to the lower classes. A sword-hilted falchion would be more expensive I'm guessing, and thus less common amongst the lower class.
I don't see a problem with a man-at-arms or a knight using one. It might have been a poorer knight, or one a knight with a specific preference.
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I like falchions too ;)
There are plenty of medieval illustrations showing the use of the falchion throughout the period by all levels of society. A good google search should do the trick.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falchion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falchion)
I really want one of the ones in the Maciejowski Bible, they look mean.
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=maciejowski+bible&num=10&hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1034&bih=655&tbm=isch&tbnid=IPAqwN918ZAl1M:&imgrefurl=http://www.keesn.nl/mac/mac_en.htm&docid=YkSm_6Z4CAdrxM&imgurl=http://home.tiscali.nl/~t401243/mac/mac03vA.jpg&w=732&h=446&ei=lrUtT8CWGIHb8gO2mumYDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=98&vpy=123&dur=3980&hovh=175&hovw=288&tx=179&ty=107&sig=105760970318420941165&sqi=2&page=1&tbnh=124&tbnw=203&start=0&ndsp=13&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0 (http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=maciejowski+bible&num=10&hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1034&bih=655&tbm=isch&tbnid=IPAqwN918ZAl1M:&imgrefurl=http://www.keesn.nl/mac/mac_en.htm&docid=YkSm_6Z4CAdrxM&imgurl=http://home.tiscali.nl/~t401243/mac/mac03vA.jpg&w=732&h=446&ei=lrUtT8CWGIHb8gO2mumYDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=98&vpy=123&dur=3980&hovh=175&hovw=288&tx=179&ty=107&sig=105760970318420941165&sqi=2&page=1&tbnh=124&tbnw=203&start=0&ndsp=13&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0)
One of the guys in our group has got a really nice sword hilted falchion from Armour class.
G.
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I like it because it's quite elegant and knightly looking despite being a "common foot soldiers weapon" The majowski bible ones look quite evil and whatnot, I sorta like them though I dont know where to actually get one designed like that.
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I like falchions too ;)
There are plenty of medieval illustrations showing the use of the falchion throughout the period by all levels of society. A good google search should do the trick.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falchion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falchion)
I really want one of the ones in the Maciejowski Bible, they look mean.
http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=maciejowski+bible&num=10&hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1034&bih=655&tbm=isch&tbnid=IPAqwN918ZAl1M:&imgrefurl=http://www.keesn.nl/mac/mac_en.htm&docid=YkSm_6Z4CAdrxM&imgurl=http://home.tiscali.nl/~t401243/mac/mac03vA.jpg&w=732&h=446&ei=lrUtT8CWGIHb8gO2mumYDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=98&vpy=123&dur=3980&hovh=175&hovw=288&tx=179&ty=107&sig=105760970318420941165&sqi=2&page=1&tbnh=124&tbnw=203&start=0&ndsp=13&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0 (http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=maciejowski+bible&num=10&hl=en&gbv=2&biw=1034&bih=655&tbm=isch&tbnid=IPAqwN918ZAl1M:&imgrefurl=http://www.keesn.nl/mac/mac_en.htm&docid=YkSm_6Z4CAdrxM&imgurl=http://home.tiscali.nl/~t401243/mac/mac03vA.jpg&w=732&h=446&ei=lrUtT8CWGIHb8gO2mumYDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=98&vpy=123&dur=3980&hovh=175&hovw=288&tx=179&ty=107&sig=105760970318420941165&sqi=2&page=1&tbnh=124&tbnw=203&start=0&ndsp=13&ved=1t:429,r:0,s:0)
One of the guys in our group has got a really nice sword hilted falchion from Armour class.
G.
i looked at his when i got my del tin version as well :)
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I really want one of the ones in the Maciejowski Bible, they look mean.
Del Tin makes them, and KoA sells them. I have one. :)
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I carry an early 16th Century Italian Falchion for my 16/17th century kits. The Falchion is my all time favorite sword, probably because it is so simple, yet elegan looking. And bonus is they were used for such a long time with only minor changes. My example is much more ornate than most earlier Falchions, but blade wise it looks almost exactly like the earlier medieval example one of the other guys in my reenacting unit has. His is a Windlass, I have no idea who made mine, I got it from Therion last year when he got a special shipment of a few in. I do know it is the same as the one Norm Carey carries at VaRF and MdRF.
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I love the falchion...especially the ones with a slight curve in the blade...they make nasty choppers.
Sir Matthew, do you carry the Italian model from Windlass? Has a pretty ornate guard with an extra curve portion to it? I wonder...I always liked it, ended up gifting it to my best man at my wedding. I actually got that one from Bill Grandy back when SFI had actual people posting there. ;)
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From a French manuscript dated to 1380. The man with what looks like a falchion has a crown on his head, so I'd say it's fair to guess the falchion spanned social classes.
http://manuscriptminiatures.com/cy-commencent-les-grans-croniques-de-la-genealogie/253/ (http://manuscriptminiatures.com/cy-commencent-les-grans-croniques-de-la-genealogie/253/)
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Mine may be a Windlass piece, but I have no idea. I know it is pretty ornate compared to most I've seen, but not in comparison to other swords from the 16th and 17th centuries. It does have a pretty good curve to it. I really like it and wish I knew who made it to keep an eye out for any others like it that might pop up on ebay or such places.
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I think it's a windlass piece, this looks like the same one. I liked it when I saw it up close.
http://sbgswordforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=swordreviews&action=print&thread=8275 (http://sbgswordforum.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=swordreviews&action=print&thread=8275)
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I think falchions saw a lot of use across many different strata of society, so I wouldn't worry too much about it. That Windlass piece is definitely more of a sword-hilted falchion, so it would really only be inappropriate for a peasant. :)
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Sir Uhlrich, that's the one! Huzzah, now I know who made it so that if I see another I can snatch it up too. I really like it and from what I understand it's no longer being made.