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Title: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: Sir Matthew on 2011-08-15, 10:33:43
I finally got some pics of me in my Peascod breast and back and my buff coat. Unfortunately I was unable to upload them to my Knight page or here. The Knight page kept telling me they were the wrong file type, even though they are gif and they are too large to post in a regular post. I may try to reupload them today after work, the computer was giving me issues yesterday so I do not thing the fault lay with the website or server. Good news is that I did get them up to my FB page, I know a few of you have seen them there from the commets and the like clicks, but I wanted to post it here too. That way the rest can head over and take a peak. I also wanted to see what everyone thought of it, clicking like is nice but here I can get some feedback on how it looks.
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-08-15, 11:50:03
I'll have to edit this post later to give my feedback since I can't access FB from work. ;)
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-08-15, 14:28:34

Yeah, if you can resize the images a little and save them as JPG, that might work best.
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: Sir William on 2011-08-15, 15:04:17
Let's see it, Sir Matthew!  I can't access FB either...and don't yet have an account.
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: Sir Patrick on 2011-08-15, 16:35:06
Ditto Ser William's request!
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2011-08-15, 20:44:34
i saw them on your FB page.

what you have to do to link from there to here is:

make sure the file is availible to be viewed by everyone.

look at the pictures in the album (all at once view) now right click the picture you want to see and open in new window (this gets rid of that stupid FB viewer)

right click the picture again and click view image
now you should have a file name in top bar that ends in .jpg that you should be able to link or view. copy and paste the entire link.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/292030_263676446978806_100000093585802_1168607_2665044_n.jpg

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/292030_263676446978806_100000093585802_1168607_2665044_n.jpg)
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-08-15, 20:50:10

The only problem with linking that way from facebook is that the links could change, and then they wouldn't show up on the forum. They'll probably work for a while though.

Another option is to upload them to a site like flickr or photobucket, which usually give you a copy-and-paste BBcode link to stick in your forum messages. Those should always work as long as you don't delete the photos.
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: Sir Patrick on 2011-08-15, 22:00:12
Kit looks great!
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: Sir Matthew on 2011-08-15, 22:27:57
Thanks for posting the pic for me. I was planning to try to upload one to my knight page tonight. I'm not sure what the problem was yesterday, my 'puter was just being stupid, it took me 2 hours to finally get them up on FB and they never did copy from my phone to the 'puter itself. I used to have a photobucket account, but I have long since lost the password and have not really done anything with it. I mostly used it to host some pics I linked to my myspace page, but since I only log in there like once every other month I didn't see the point to going to the effort of redoing my password there. Maybe I have to do that to share my pics other places now, though.
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: Sir Ulrich on 2011-08-16, 02:08:42
Nice, I like how the armor has an aged/blued appearance. Makes it look more authentic looking, when I get a few pieces of plate I'm probably going to do something similar. Also I like the helmet, it looks like a kettle helm quite a bit.
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: Sir William on 2011-08-16, 14:38:00
Nice, Matt...I like it!  Looks like me taking pics...I never know how to stand or what to 'do' with myself.  Others like Sirs Brian, Edward or Wolf seem to have the poses down pat.  :)
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: SirNathanQ on 2011-08-16, 15:12:55
I harassed you on FB about it already, But I'll say it here too, looks wonderful! I wouldn't mind having you in my Tercio!  ;)
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: Sir James A on 2011-08-16, 21:22:36
Looks good Matt! Only thing I can say is the pants should have the same length on each side. ;)
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: Sir Matthew on 2011-08-17, 03:28:15
Looks good Matt! Only thing I can say is the pants should have the same length on each side. ;)

Haha, they do, but for some reason the left pant leg always seems to catch on something and hang up. I joke that it's my gang style since I live in the 'hood. Sir Nathan, it would be my honor to be in your Tercio, although we English don't use such a formation, we stick to the Pike and Shotte model.
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: SirNathanQ on 2011-08-17, 12:54:27
Ahh, ok. So just wondering, what exact year or era does your group portray?
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: Sir Matthew on 2011-08-17, 22:32:56
We do mid 16th to mid 17th century. We are able to portray several different units in that time period, at PaRF we are the fictional Mount Hope Trayned Band but we also do a company of foote (the regiment we belong to evades me at the moment) for ECW events and this year we added the 1630s Massachusetts Colony Militia to our portfolio.
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: SirNathanQ on 2011-08-17, 22:47:08
Ahh, nice. 17th century is a fun era
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: Sir William on 2011-08-18, 13:58:54
Why'd it take them so long to come up with the buff coat?  That should be 14th Century at least!  lol
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: SirNathanQ on 2011-08-18, 17:35:46
Because leather became a lot less expensive then.
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: Sir William on 2011-08-18, 20:17:08
How was it expensive?  You go out, kill a deer, skin it, cut up the steaks, dry and tan the hide- pretty simple.  lol
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: Sir Matthew on 2011-08-18, 22:38:52
Yeah, leather was pretty expensive before the 16th cent., and even then it wasn't what I would call super cheap. I'm not sure why, but I would guess it would have to do with demand. Alot things were made out of leather or fur pelts and that would naturally drive up the price. Plus, tanning is a very long and involved process, not to mention very dirty and smelly. That might also have figured into the expense.
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: SirNathanQ on 2011-08-19, 14:42:46
Because a Buff Coat wasn't made of deerskin, it was made out of Cow skin. It needs a thicker skin to be able to dependably stop a sword. Buff coats were quite thick, some said being able to stop pistol shots from a medium range (for a pistol) and caliver shot from a long range.

Cows were worth a good bit of money in period. It wasn't until the 16th and 17th centuries where people had enough unused land to stick enough cattle on it to really make killing them for skin worth it.   
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: Sir William on 2011-08-19, 14:55:10
I'm going to butcher me a cow one day...and take his hide for my buff coat.  lol
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: SirNathanQ on 2011-08-19, 18:12:36
Go for it. Watch out for the farmers though. Peasants are none too pleased when you start skinning their income......
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: Sir William on 2011-08-19, 18:24:03
I'll show'm a little steel and they'll be on their way...or end up with pretty bright steel jutting proudly from their chests or backs. 
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: Sir Matthew on 2011-08-19, 22:05:11
From what I've been able to uncover, the period Buff Coats were made from the European Bison or Wisent, a distant relative of the American Bison. Their hides are very thick and would be suitable for such a coat. Modern Buff Coats are most likely made from Bull hides. Period Buff Coats have been said to have stopped musket balls at medium range and pistol balls at far range as well as turn poorly aimed sword strokes. I think that their strength may be a bit exagerated, but mine is indeed pretty thick and tough. I'm not sure I't let anyone hit me with a sword or shoot a pistol at me from long range when I'm in it, though.
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: Sir Gerard de Rodes on 2011-08-19, 22:33:21
Sir Matthew,
The English civil war kit looks great.  ;)
Although I really don`t get very enthused by these "later period" garbs as I don`t see them as medieval or even very "knightly".
G.
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: Sir Matthew on 2011-08-19, 22:53:56
Sir Matthew,
The English civil war kit looks great.  ;)
Although I really don`t get very enthused by these "later period" garbs as I don`t see them as medieval or even very "knightly".
G.

I was hoping you would chime in. It's nice to have someone from across the pond be able to critique what we are doing over here in representing you. I wasn't much of a fan of later kits either, but once I started playing with matchlocks and cannons, I was hooked. I don't pretend to be representing Knights and Chivalry with this kit, but at some point I fully intend to finish my Mid-1300s Teutonic kit. I've pretty much picked up most of my big ticket items for this era, I just have a couple things to wrap up, then I'll focus on my Knightly kit.
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: Sir Gerard de Rodes on 2011-08-19, 23:49:15
Sir Matthew,
The English civil war kit looks great.  ;)
Although I really don`t get very enthused by these "later period" garbs as I don`t see them as medieval or even very "knightly".
G.

I was hoping you would chime in. It's nice to have someone from across the pond be able to critique what we are doing over here in representing you. I wasn't much of a fan of later kits either, but once I started playing with matchlocks and cannons, I was hooked. I don't pretend to be representing Knights and Chivalry with this kit, but at some point I fully intend to finish my Mid-1300s Teutonic kit. I've pretty much picked up most of my big ticket items for this era, I just have a couple things to wrap up, then I'll focus on my Knightly kit.

Sir Matthew,
One of the most prominent re-enactment groups here in the UK is the "Sealed Knot". They are the biggest English civil war re-enactment group in the world (and don`t they know it). If you need any pointers, look to them.
I am all for people doing/re-enacting other periods, if money alowed I would also be doing WWII.
I really believe that the C14th is the most interesting medieval period for many reasons; 100 years war, Armour progression, fashions, chivalric ideals etc etc.
You mention black powder and I can`t help but get enthused. I am in the middle of getting a C14th handgonne made for display purposes.

Good luck with the C14th kit, please don`t go over to the dark side of the C15th, they might be shiney and clanky but they aint chivalrous (awaits onslaught of comments).

Touching the match to the hole,
G.
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: SirNathanQ on 2011-08-20, 01:41:28
All I'll say is that IMO the knight's golden era were between the 13th-15th centuries. I plan to cover them all.

And Go TEUTONIC! WOOO!!!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: My Pikeman's armor
Post by: Sir Matthew on 2011-08-20, 03:48:50
Sir Gerard I have to Hand Gonnes. One is a mortar type design with bore just of an inch, and the other is a 50 Cal. gonne. They are alot of fun to shoot, more fun than even my matchlock, I think. I grew up around guns, but they were always more practical to me. They were used for hunting or defense. My hand gonnes, matchlock and my newest acquisition an 1861 Springfield Rifle-Musket are adult toys to be used responsibly for fun. Eventually I intend to hunt with my matchlock as well, but until then I enjoy shooting it for fun and to reenact which is also fun for me, if it wasn't I wouldn't do it.