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Title: My sets
Post by: Sir John of Felsenbau on 2011-06-18, 15:41:16
I'm trying to post some of the sets of helms/surcoat/shields that I have. Am having trouble. Looks like I can only post 2 at a time.
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir John of Felsenbau on 2011-06-18, 15:48:24
adding 2 more. Hope I didn't post 2 of the same. First ones were Urlich v Liechtenstein, and his son. These are two more Liechtenstein family knights.
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir James A on 2011-06-18, 23:23:16
Very neat, Sir John. Thanks for posting them. The one with the three white "claws"? is very unique. I haven't seen anything like that before.
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-06-19, 02:46:59
Am having trouble. Looks like I can only post 2 at a time.

Yeah, I think you were running up against the max data per message limit, due to the size of the images. I've increased the limit. It should be a little easier now.
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir John of Felsenbau on 2011-06-19, 13:54:08
I think the claws are blades from the tool that cuts wheat. It's the coat of arms of the knights of Treisen in Liechtenstein. When I go to the PA REN Faire this year, I was talked into going as royalty by my sister in law. So like Keith Ledger in "A Knight's Tale" I am going as Prince Karl I (1st prince) of Liechtenstein. Those coming with me will be dressed as my retainers. For the trumpeter I even bought a real medieval trumpet...5 feet long. She even plays the trumpet, so she may be able to play it.

Most of my sets of outfits I haven't photographed yet...when I get around to it, I'll post them. I still want to take the picture of the Sir William Marshal outfit I made.
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-06-19, 19:14:08
Excellent looking sets John! Half the fun is the research! Well done indeed! :)
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir John of Felsenbau on 2011-06-25, 13:08:14
I'm trying a few more...they are smaller, so I might be able to add more than 2
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir John of Felsenbau on 2011-06-25, 13:31:48
The following two are what I will be wearing at this years PA REN F....as Prince Karl I von Lichtenstein...the crown I made from scratch.
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir John of Felsenbau on 2011-06-26, 18:20:09
I finally took na picture of my Sir William set, including his standard
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-06-26, 21:24:12

Hey neat. What did you make the crown out of? It looks pretty detailed.
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir James A on 2011-06-27, 19:10:24

Hey neat. What did you make the crown out of? It looks pretty detailed.


Indeed, the crown looks very detailed. Great job on it, and all the other items, too. I am sure you will have fun as a prince at the renn faire.
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir William on 2011-06-27, 19:46:45
Nice wares, Sir John....did you make them all by hand?
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir John of Felsenbau on 2011-07-02, 14:10:08
All mys surcoats and shields are hand made. Surcoats are even hand sewed, like they were back then. For the crown, for the base I used part of a plastic flower pot that fit me, then I used bests for the cross over parts, all painted. I glued various gems, etc that I bought. One belt I bought had some items that I took off to use. I did have the fake ermine on hand to add to the crown. It's my artistic outlet.  Geez, I counted my helmets in my collection, I have almost 40! And each is decorated from a knight that I researched on the net. Most have matching surcoats and shields.

By the way, what did you think of my Sir Wm Marshal outfit?
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir James A on 2011-07-03, 18:47:19
By the way, what did you think of my Sir Wm Marshal outfit?

Very well done. It's easy to see you've put a LOT of effort into these, especially with sewing by hand. I like the William Marshal one, especially the standard. They are fairly rare to see.
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir John of Felsenbau on 2011-07-03, 20:33:48
I have quite a few sets kije that, just haven't had the time to take pictures of them. I always do a lot of research on the knight before I make a set.

By the way, did you ever see "A Knight's Tale" with keith ledger? Well he pretends to be Sir Urlich von Lichtenstein. I did a lot of research on him, and he was not only in wars, but he was quite the character. He went on two tournament circuits and never lost! On one, he dressed as King Arthur and his companions as knights of the round table. The other was amazing, he loved venus, and used her image as his crest, but on one circuit, he actually dressed I (in a pink dress)  as venus...complete with wig and braids! And he participated in tournaments in that outfit!
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-07-04, 10:45:48
lol Oh that is excellent! I have a much deeper appreciation for Sir Urlich. I had only done some rudimentary research after the movie came out and found that he was a real knight within the same time period but that was pretty much it! Thanks for sharing that Sir John!  :)
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: SirNathanQ on 2011-07-04, 16:50:17
Oh wow, he was a real character? Perfect for the focus of the movie. Good to see movies putting in resl research  :)

Now if they could only do something about all the armour from that movie.......... >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-07-05, 14:32:32

Yeah, I really have to attempt to ignore the anachronisms and inaccuracy, but otherwise I love that movie.
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: SirNathanQ on 2011-07-05, 16:48:38
It's a good movie, but half the time I'm left shrieking "WTF ARE THEY WEARING!!!!!!" (That's usually when I start losing friends really fast, or people leave the theater...)

It's even worse now that I know they took the time to research a real historical figure.... *Forehead slap*

(And BTW, why did his girlfriend always have to look like a Chihuahua?)  :P
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir James A on 2011-07-05, 17:37:30
By the way, did you ever see "A Knight's Tale" with keith ledger? Well he pretends to be Sir Urlich von Lichtenstein. I did a lot of research on him, and he was not only in wars, but he was quite the character. He went on two tournament circuits and never lost! On one, he dressed as King Arthur and his companions as knights of the round table. The other was amazing, he loved venus, and used her image as his crest, but on one circuit, he actually dressed I (in a pink dress)  as venus...complete with wig and braids! And he participated in tournaments in that outfit!

That's truly a character! It would have been strange to see Heath Ledger in a pink dress, and even stranger to see him winning in it.
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-07-05, 18:41:49
No the movie was hokey enough with him winning without armor and the lance strapped to his arm.  ;)
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir William on 2011-07-06, 15:32:34
I could win like that Sir Brian...I would only require the other man to miss.  ;)
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir Patrick on 2011-07-07, 03:58:08
Don't put that on your "Full Metal Jousting" application. :-X
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir William on 2011-07-07, 14:02:19
LOL

I won't...they'd try and hold me to it they would!
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir John of Felsenbau on 2011-07-09, 14:06:40
I attached my coat of arms which is copyrighted in the US. It all started out when I was a kid, my dad gave me a placque for our surname (from sears) Course I realize now except for a dircect ist son male line, everyone has their own coat. I added the crescent for the second son, then the estrucheon for the Hohenzollern family. When I was in high school a friend told me his family was descendant of them (His family only spoke German) so I asked him to knight me, which he did. So my first knighting was from a relative of the hohenzollerns so that's why I added that.
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir William on 2011-07-11, 14:44:05
Interesting coat of arms, Sir John...can you tell us what it stands for?
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-07-12, 11:44:54
Interesting COA indeed! Do you have the emblazon of your arms? If not anyone want to have a go at it?  :)
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir John of Felsenbau on 2011-07-16, 14:34:16
Yes I do have the blazon, but it's at work. I'll have to try to remember to copy it down...it's involved.

I decided that soon I will start a thread...this week's knight...and post sets I have made for different historical knights and a little about each one.
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir James A on 2011-07-18, 03:51:40
I decided that soon I will start a thread...this week's knight...and post sets I have made for different historical knights and a little about each one.

That would be really cool!
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir Rodney on 2011-07-18, 13:14:05
Quote from: Sir Brian
Interesting COA indeed! Do you have the emblazon of your arms? If not anyone want to have a go at it?
I gave it a go this weekend without much success.  This one's NOT easy! ;)

Quote from: Sir John of Felsenbau
Yes I do have the blazon, but it's at work. I'll have to try to remember to copy it down...it's involved.
Please do, I'm very intrigued. :)
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: SirNathanQ on 2011-07-21, 01:35:25
Yeah,I love COA stories!  :D
Title: Re: My sets
Post by: Sir John of Felsenbau on 2011-07-23, 13:59:07
Arms: Tenne, in Chief, a Mullet Azure fimbrriated Sable Debruised by a Martlet close, facing Sinister of the Third, In Dexter, a Martlet close facing Sinister of the Third, In Sinister, a Martlet close facing Sinister of the Third, In base a Crescent Argent fimbrriated of the Third bwteen two Scythes Saltirewise of the Fourth fimbrriated of the Third and Debruised by an Inestrutcheon quartered of the Fourth and Third. (Told you it was a mouthfull!)

Too hot to work on taking pics of my many other sets, have to wait till it cools down a little.

Sir John