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Title: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-04-19, 00:32:14
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Tah908/Armor/GARF020.jpg)

More photos here:
http://s221.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Tah908/Armor/ (http://s221.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Tah908/Armor/)
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-04-19, 02:32:32

Wow, that's looking really wild! The new colors look great. Can't wait to see it in person. :)
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2011-04-19, 06:15:42
Nice!

What is that thing on the front of your helm?
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-04-19, 07:26:46
A leather mask which is attached via strategically placed earth magnets that is glued onto the mask. They keep the mask securely in place but will still allow a bit of adjustment if the mask occasionally shifts and obscures my vision whenever I close the visor.
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir William on 2011-04-19, 14:35:46
Whoa, that's wild stuff right there- the mask I mean.  I like it.  Been thinking of getting a lion-crest helm done...would be uber expensive.
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-04-19, 16:17:52
Do you mean something like this?
(http://www.niximperial.com/npics/2100.jpg)
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir William on 2011-04-19, 16:41:55
Hey- that looks like the helm that Colin wore in Alexander...and I want something similar, but w/out the plumage...and I was thinking of a falling buff-style helm so the lion's mouth opens and closes.  And the lion's mane would be a little larger, almost like the image of Aslan (but I'm not trying to evoke him, mind you).

Wouldn't that be cool?  If I ever hit the lottery...or actually GET my tax returns back this year (the IRS is made up of THIEVES I tell you)!!!
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-04-19, 17:15:11
Here is another, although it is made of leather and looks more wolfish IMO! ;)
(http://i395.photobucket.com/albums/pp33/bogart080683/Lion_Helmet_and_new_jaw_by_Azmal.jpg)
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir James A on 2011-04-19, 18:18:09
Wow, that mask is really trippy. The new kit looks great!
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir William on 2011-04-19, 18:57:09
That does look more like a wolf but you got the gist of it...I kinda like that.  Where's it from?  Maybe I could strap that to a round helm (secret helm) or something.  It'd be a good deal cheaper than a hammered version. 
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-04-19, 19:36:39
Sorry I just did a google image search. At least you know it can be done fairly well and could be a guideline to some other master craftsman. It's been my experience that the truly gifted craftsman/woman relishes a challenge!  ;)
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Robert on 2011-04-20, 03:10:36
Wow! Interesting new look
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-04-20, 19:25:26

I think we need to make a new poster image in photoshop. Several of the pictures look good in that they don't have harsh shadows. Is there one you particularly like? If I can, I'd like to get a really high-resolution copy to work from.

You can send me big files here:

http://upload.toton.org/ (http://upload.toton.org/)
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Robert on 2011-04-21, 04:30:22
I really like the look Sir Brian, are you going fantasy this year? No matter really, as armor was custom it was also not unusual to have symbolic headresses in tournament so it goes nicely.  :)
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Robert on 2011-04-21, 04:35:00
One other question, who makes your tunic? Its very well done
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-04-21, 11:57:10
I think we need to make a new poster image in photoshop. Several of the pictures look good in that they don't have harsh shadows. Is there one you particularly like? If I can, I'd like to get a really high-resolution copy to work from.

I would prefer if you held off on that because I’m actually not that crazy about any of the pictures. I had Rosemary take them more so I could see what things I still needed to tweak on the harness. Namely making the under padding of the aventail a little smaller and adjusting the way I’m wearing it so the besegues are more prominent also reworking the method of securing the sabatons and perhaps shortening the surcoat so the top accolade is closer to the edge of where the aventail starts. :-\

I really like the look Sir Brian, are you going fantasy this year? No matter really, as armor was custom it was also not unusual to have symbolic headresses in tournament so it goes nicely.  :)

One other question, who makes your tunic? Its very well done

Going fantasy? Hardly! As you stated it is more to add a bit of festivity in a tournament setting than having just the starkness of a plain visor. It was a far more cost effective method than having something done in metal. I am also afforded the option of using the helm for live steel combat which I eventually want to get into without having to mar a very expensive custom made steel metal visor.  ;)

Oh and Sir Edward’s future sister-in-law made my surcoat and yes she is an exceptionally gifted seamstress!  :)
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Robert on 2011-04-21, 12:42:05
I really liked your past surcoat and would like to have one made similar but of course in my colors (black and white), think she would be interested in a commission?

I had looked into getting into the SCA for combat, even attended a couple of meetings and went to one of their practices but there was just siomething about them that I didn't warm up too...can't really put my finger on it because they were very open and friendly. I think it was something about wjat their views of knighthood are vs. mine (ours). Anyway, I really like the mask BUT you know you just may be able to talk me in to making you something if you wear it...do you have a helm with a removable visor? One option would be to buy a non-combat helm with a visor so a new one could be fitted to it....

I have not given making a tournament helm much thought really....but my symbol is a dragon and now you have me thinking what I could do with a visor and that image, interesting, I will have to ponder that and maybe make something when I get some time.
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Rodney on 2011-04-21, 13:11:24
... I have not given making a tournament helm much thought really....but my symbol is a dragon and now you have me thinking what I could do with a visor and that image, interesting, I will have to ponder that and maybe make something when I get some time.

You might want to take a look at the helm crests made by Sir Angus (Jeremy) in this (http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=130866) Armour Archive thread.  He casts each crest out of foam filled latex then hand paints them.  They are made specifically for behourd combat (e.g. to be knocked off your helm again and again).  According to this post from February, the dragon heads he cast for the Leeds Royal Armouries can be had for only $65 including S&H! :o
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Robert on 2011-04-21, 13:54:51
I remember that thread, and that is really, really inexpensive, I will have to look into that, so thank you. I am still interested in making a visor though its just an interesting way of getting rid of my scraps!
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-04-21, 14:08:51
Well you would have to ask her via Sir Edward I suppose; she of course does take commissions however I don’t know how often or what her current workload is. Her prices are very reasonable considering the mastery of her skill! I would recommend going with the laced up sides as it makes donning and removing the surcoat much easier! ;)

As for the visor I am truly humbled by your generosity and I am sorely tempted if it isn’t too much of an imposition upon you, perhaps it is a discussion we best leave at the next faire we can attend together. ;)

As to making you a dragon helm for yourself, I thought I had posted a picture somewhere on this forum of Sir John who is the black knight at CRF and the magnificent bascinet dragon helm with a visor he had made himself which if I can find the pictures might give you some ideas. I will check my computer at home when I get off work.  :-\

@ Rodney: WOW! That guy is extremely talented! I will definitely bookmark that link! Thanks for posting it! 
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-04-21, 14:35:00
I think we need to make a new poster image in photoshop. Several of the pictures look good in that they don't have harsh shadows. Is there one you particularly like? If I can, I'd like to get a really high-resolution copy to work from.

I would prefer if you held off on that because I’m actually not that crazy about any of the pictures. I had Rosemary take them more so I could see what things I still needed to tweak on the harness.

Well, I have a little treat in the works anyway. Just for fun. :)
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-04-21, 14:38:39
I really liked your past surcoat and would like to have one made similar but of course in my colors (black and white), think she would be interested in a commission?

As far as I know, she's always open to commissions. She gets all of her work through word of mouth. It's her side-business to earn some extra cash. She usually has a pretty long waiting list. I think my nobles took over a year before my turn came up. I will mention though that her prices may have gone up slightly on surcoats since I think Sir Brian's ended up taking a little longer than she planned. :) It's easiest to get in touch with her at faire. But if you're interested, I can pass word along to her (or try anyway, she's not always easy to reach). I'd just need to pass your email address along to her so she can work with you directly.
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-04-21, 15:16:13
Well, I have a little treat in the works anyway. Just for fun. :)

And here we are!

(http://modernchivalry.org/posters/brian-on-horse-orig_546x640.jpg) (http://modernchivalry.org/posters/brian-on-horse-orig_1200x1024.jpg)
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-04-21, 16:27:49
Lol that’s cool! Although the horse does seem to have an expression that is saying: “Would someone PLEASE get this...
(http://www.dvd.net.au/movies/a/01217-4.jpg)
...off me!”  :D
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir William on 2011-04-22, 16:41:04
Well, I have a little treat in the works anyway. Just for fun. :)

And here we are!

(http://modernchivalry.org/posters/brian-on-horse-orig_546x640.jpg) (http://modernchivalry.org/posters/brian-on-horse-orig_1200x1024.jpg)

Whoa, that's AWESOME Sir Edward.  Can you do that with all of us- need that specific pose I assume?  Look @ me.  lol
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-04-22, 17:21:42

I just kinda lucked out on that one. :)
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir William on 2011-04-22, 18:41:55
Huh.  His horse is rather slender...guess that one's his palfrey, no?  lol

Great job man...you've an eye for it.
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir William on 2011-04-22, 18:45:44
I really liked your past surcoat and would like to have one made similar but of course in my colors (black and white), think she would be interested in a commission?

May I be added to this list?  It seems we have two very talented seamstresses to choose from...I'd rather go with the family member of a brother if a choice must be made.  How long's her waitlist you say?

As far as I know, she's always open to commissions. She gets all of her work through word of mouth. It's her side-business to earn some extra cash. She usually has a pretty long waiting list. I think my nobles took over a year before my turn came up. I will mention though that her prices may have gone up slightly on surcoats since I think Sir Brian's ended up taking a little longer than she planned. :) It's easiest to get in touch with her at faire. But if you're interested, I can pass word along to her (or try anyway, she's not always easy to reach). I'd just need to pass your email address along to her so she can work with you directly.

Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-04-24, 22:27:50
I really liked your past surcoat and would like to have one made similar but of course in my colors (black and white), think she would be interested in a commission?

As far as I know, she's always open to commissions. She gets all of her work through word of mouth. It's her side-business to earn some extra cash. She usually has a pretty long waiting list. I think my nobles took over a year before my turn came up. I will mention though that her prices may have gone up slightly on surcoats since I think Sir Brian's ended up taking a little longer than she planned. :) It's easiest to get in touch with her at faire. But if you're interested, I can pass word along to her (or try anyway, she's not always easy to reach). I'd just need to pass your email address along to her so she can work with you directly.


OK, anyone who wants to get in contact with Marie about surcoats, send me a PM with the email address you'd like me to pass along. I talked to her, and she's ready to go on them, just with a waiting list. She said she's pretty booked for this season (presumably meaning through MDRF season this year), so it's a bit of a wait. Might want to get in early if you're thinking long-term. Forget everything I said about pricing, etc. Apparently once she got into the groove of doing the appliques, she got the skill down and is happy with the process. So it's all good.

Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Ulrich on 2011-04-25, 00:25:24
Awesome pic and kit man. Mask makes things interesting, makes me wanna do something from the transitional era.
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2011-04-25, 00:37:23
hehehe horse and shadow needs to be a tad bigger ;) looks cool though
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-04-25, 03:01:21
hehehe horse and shadow needs to be a tad bigger ;) looks cool though

Yeah, I didn't shrink Sir Brian enough relative to the horse.
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-04-25, 15:26:57
hehehe horse and shadow needs to be a tad bigger ;) looks cool though

Yeah, I didn't shrink Sir Brian enough relative to the horse.

The shadow is actually pretty close to correct since it's original to the horse photo with a person on it. Here's what I worked from:

Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-04-25, 15:43:44

OK, tweaked it a little. Size is better now. Also adjusted the size of the lance.

(http://modernchivalry.org/posters/brian-on-horse_546x640.jpg) (http://modernchivalry.org/posters/brian-on-horse_1024x1200.jpg)
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-04-25, 16:05:40

OK, tweaked it a little. Size is better now. Also adjusted the size of the lance.


Oh only if it was that simple you would be a VERY rich man! :D
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2011-04-25, 21:44:42
ahhahhahahahahahahahaah

no really, this "lance" enhancer is really not mine baby
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-04-26, 02:52:30
I guess Photoshop is the new Viagra? :)
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir William on 2011-04-26, 15:03:16
Sir Edward, I'm interested in getting on her mailing/waiting list.

diggsjj@yahoo.com

If you please, Sir.  Thanks!  I'm cool with having something new for NEXT season!  Gives me time to come up with something...
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-05-12, 13:43:13
Okay lessons learned when dealing with silk fabric:

I hand washed my new surcoat the other day because I didn't see the sense in delaying the inevitable of it needing to be washed.
I used dove delicate care laundry detergent and hand washed it in COLD water only. Unfortunately the green silk was not precisely color fast and it bled a bit into the water, however I half expected that and didn’t let it soak very long so the dye bleed over onto the white silk is very nominal. That being said those of you interested in having silk in your surcoats I suggest the following pre-steps prior to making the garment:


Personally I think my surcoat looks perfect now that it has a touch of the worn look about it.  ;)
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir William on 2011-05-12, 15:50:05
Good advice, Sir Brian...unfortunately I have experience with color bleed out...or I should say, my local dry cleaners do.  They ruined one of my surcoats!
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-05-25, 00:31:41
Here is a couple of pictures of my "campaign" surcoat made of just linen with embroidered heraldry.
The seamstress totally floored me that she could embroider my heraldic charges so easily and cheaply.

(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Tah908/WIP/P5240001.jpg)
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Tah908/WIP/P5240002.jpg)

I intend to wear this surcoat with my bascinet and I'll wear the finer silk surcoat with my improved great
helm which will have a matching green/yellow silk mantle as well as a new crest.  ;)
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-05-25, 02:01:08

Awesome man! Your kits are getting really nice!
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir William on 2011-05-25, 14:10:31
Wow...I really like what she's done there.  The campaign one has almost a worn look to it...its coming together nicely, man!
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2011-05-25, 15:47:35
sexy
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Rodney on 2011-05-25, 17:02:41
sexy

I agree, the surcoat is very sexy.  You were talking about the surcoat, right?  ;)
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir William on 2011-05-25, 20:43:56
No telling with Sir Wolf...I think he likes it ambiguously taken.  lol
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2011-05-25, 21:53:09
huh what? yeah.. the surcoat.. geez hahaha
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Patrick on 2011-05-26, 03:38:46
Has she finished your campaign mumu yet? ;D
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-05-26, 07:16:49
I'm waiting for the home equity loan to go through before I can purchase that much silk!  :D
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2011-05-26, 19:49:59
hahahaha
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir William on 2011-06-03, 16:35:30
... I have not given making a tournament helm much thought really....but my symbol is a dragon and now you have me thinking what I could do with a visor and that image, interesting, I will have to ponder that and maybe make something when I get some time.

WHOA, first time I've seen this.  This has me thinking...everyone uses Lions...maybe I need to become....

The Dragon Knight.  I like the sound of that!  Damn, that means I'll need new heraldry, CoA, surcoat, shield and helm.  hee hee.

You might want to take a look at the helm crests made by Sir Angus (Jeremy) in this (http://forums.armourarchive.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=130866) Armour Archive thread.  He casts each crest out of foam filled latex then hand paints them.  They are made specifically for behourd combat (e.g. to be knocked off your helm again and again).  According to this post from February, the dragon heads he cast for the Leeds Royal Armouries can be had for only $65 including S&H! :o
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Patrick on 2011-06-04, 04:49:05
Sir Brian, I forgot to ask:  Are those the large besagues from Merc tailor you're sporting? 
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-06-04, 07:29:07
Yes! I've had them for over a year but they wouldn't work with my old COA and surcoat and I never got around to including them with my Teutonic kit since I hardly ever wear it.  :)
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2011-06-04, 13:06:31
looks great
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir William on 2011-06-06, 14:02:11
Now I know what was missing...where was your 'face', Sir Brian?
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-06-06, 17:24:19
My apologies Sir William but I left that behind for safe keeping as our transport was pretty well packed. Another time perhaps at MDRF?
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir William on 2011-06-06, 17:37:54
I look forward to it!  Such a cool looking addition.
Title: Re: My Overhauled Kit
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2011-06-08, 23:35:15
ooooooooooo