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Title: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2011-05-30, 01:54:07
well, pictures? how was the heat?
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-05-30, 03:10:16

We had a good time today. It was pretty hot out, but it was manageable most of the day. I got pretty overheated at one point late in the day, but we sat down for a while and I recovered.

Sir Brian and I got recruited by the jousters to help as squires for one of the jousts. That was pretty cool. Too bad the joust didn't go entirely as planned. One of the jousters was exhausted, and his horse was a jousting newbie, so between the two he got knocked off and was too tired to continue.

(http://ed.toton.org/photos/2011/faire/b2120.jpg) (http://ed.toton.org/photos/2011/faire/b2120b.jpg)
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-05-30, 11:14:52
Yes it was a very great armor day! You did very well Sir Edward as I must confess I was a bit concerned for you since it was your first time in the new kit and I believe your first outing in this kind of weather in armor! Huzzah and well done!  :)

Yes that was a lot of fun and a great experience being squires for the jousters. We'll have to armor-down before doing so again next Sunday if they should require our assistance again.  ;)

When the one jouster was unhorsed and his horse ran back down the list towards me I had tried to calm him so I could grab his reins, the horse slowed a bit and perked it's ears up for a second, sort of like saying: "WTF?", but then he lowered his head and laid back his ears which gave me a moment to calculate the math formula:
 
If an armored dude (me) weighing perhaps 300 pounds tries to impede a horse which is 800-900 pounds equals me getting trampled!

So I gave the horse the road.  ;)
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-05-30, 14:41:22
Yes it was a very great armor day! You did very well Sir Edward as I must confess I was a bit concerned for you since it was your first time in the new kit and I believe your first outing in this kind of weather in armor! Huzzah and well done!  :)

Oh, I've done worse. But this is probably the furthest I've pushed it since I got smarter about it. About 90 degrees and partial plate armor is a little crazy, since it's a solar oven.

My worst and most stupid outing was when I first started doing armor back in '99, and I wore over 50 pounds of steel mail and a wool surcoat to MDRF's opening day. It was about 96 - 99 degrees, sunny, and horrendously humid. I was dehydrated with a migraine after 45 minutes and took the armor off at that point, and didn't recover for the rest of the day. Since then I've been careful not to push it so far.

Yesterday was probably about my limit. But we survived it to the end of the day! And I didn't get overly dehydrated! Huzzah! :)

Yes that was a lot of fun and a great experience being squires for the jousters. We'll have to armor-down before doing so again next Sunday if they should require our assistance again.  ;)

Indeed! Plate armor in the sun isn't the most practical for squiring. :)

When the one jouster was unhorsed and his horse ran back down the list towards me I had tried to calm him so I could grab his reins, the horse slowed a bit and perked it's ears up for a second, sort of like saying: "WTF?", but then he lowered his head and laid back his ears which gave me a moment to calculate the math formula:
 
If an armored dude (me) weighing perhaps 300 pounds tries to impede a horse which is 800-900 pounds equals me getting trampled!

So I gave the horse the road.  ;)

That's a smart move! I think your math is sound. :)
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2011-05-30, 14:57:49
totally sound, and you didn't even need to take off your boots to count! hahahaha

picture looks great!
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Jason Simonds on 2011-05-30, 16:04:36
Had a great day on Sunday, heat was tolerable for me. It was good to get together with with some of my fellow knights. Unfortunately things have been really hectic for me lately so I have not had a chance to post.
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2011-05-30, 16:11:59
welcome home Sir Jason!
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-05-30, 17:58:14
Had a great day on Sunday, heat was tolerable for me. It was good to get together with with some of my fellow knights. Unfortunately things have been really hectic for me lately so I have not had a chance to post.

Welcome back to the forum!
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-05-31, 00:07:27
Welcome back to the forum Sir Jason! :)
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Joshua Santana on 2011-05-31, 00:20:42
Huzzah and well met Sir Jason!

At Your Service,
Sir Joshua Santana, Knight of the Lion Blade
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir James A on 2011-05-31, 05:19:09
Sounds like a great time. I hope the weather holds out for next weekend!
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Patrick on 2011-05-31, 14:09:40
Great picture of your kits, good sirs!  Sir Brian, I'm jealous of your crest.  Where did you get it?
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir William on 2011-05-31, 14:15:34
Sir Jason, good to see you on here...I look forward to this weekend at VARF!!!!

Sirs Brian and Edward, looking good as always...love the new/upgraded kit, Brian, it sits well on you.
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-05-31, 14:34:02
Sirs Brian and Edward, looking good as always...love the new/upgraded kit, Brian, it sits well on you.

I like what Sir Brian did with his new crest! Between that and the new surcoat, the kit is looking really nice!
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-05-31, 15:10:17
Sirs Brian and Edward, looking good as always...love the new/upgraded kit, Brian, it sits well on you.

I like what Sir Brian did with his new crest! Between that and the new surcoat, the kit is looking really nice!

Thank you kind Sirs! I am really pleased how it has turned out and I also have a little bit of versatility now with the bascinet and my other ‘campaign’ surcoat.  :)
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Jason Simonds on 2011-05-31, 16:05:27
Thank you all for the gracious greetings, I am glad to be able to return to the forums. I agree as well, Sir Brian's new Silk Tabard Looks great, I was able to get in a sneak peek before it was finished. The new Crest is most excellent as well, great job on that as well.
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-05-31, 16:36:37
Great picture of your kits, good sirs!  Sir Brian, I'm jealous of your crest.  Where did you get it?

Sorry I missed your posting earlier Red Knight!  :-[

I got my crest from here:
http://www.dragonlore53.com/ (http://www.dragonlore53.com/)

They don’t have much in the way of griffons but I managed with one of the few offerings they had. I had inquired of them three years ago if they intended to ever carry griffons and last year they were finally able to convince one of their carvers to try a few but he didn’t like to do them that much so I don’t think they’ll carry them in the future. I am inquiring with a very talented artist I know to see if she’d be interested in doing one but that could be a bit pricey. I’ll just have to be extremely careful with this one.  :-\
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Jason Simonds on 2011-05-31, 21:57:47
Posted a Picture of a shield design on my page let me know what you think.
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-05-31, 22:04:37
Posted a Picture of a shield design on my page let me know what you think.

(http://modernchivalry.org/knightdata/121/photo1306865360-0000-big.jpg)

That looks pretty cool! I have no idea how to blazon the triangular pattern at the top. Was that something you came up with or was that already on one of the family designs you saw?
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2011-05-31, 22:23:42
sweet
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir James A on 2011-05-31, 23:04:42
I have no idea how to blazon the triangular pattern at the top.

Something vaguely like "Per Fess Argent and Sable, an Otter (?) Argent, Ribbons(?) Azure, Trefoils wavy Or on A Pily sable"

I've completely butchered it without a doubt, but that should be a rough start I hope?
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2011-05-31, 23:27:48
better than i could say with a mouth of marbles thats for sure!
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: SirNathanQ on 2011-05-31, 23:37:30
Welcome! And The COA is nice. Would you be so kind as to explain the Symbolism?
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-06-01, 00:14:34

Something vaguely like "Per Fess Argent and Sable, an Otter (?) Argent, Ribbons(?) Azure, Trefoils wavy Or on A Pily sable"

I've completely butchered it without a doubt, but that should be a rough start I hope?

The main field is actually a fur called "ermine" and the animal is also an ermine (I only know that latter part because we talked about it off-forum previously).
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-06-01, 01:22:25
Posted a Picture of a shield design on my page let me know what you think.

(http://modernchivalry.org/knightdata/121/photo1306865360-0000-big.jpg)

That looks pretty cool! I have no idea how to blazon the triangular pattern at the top. Was that something you came up with or was that already on one of the family designs you saw?

I believe it to be a chief dancetty sable which dancetty represents water.

Excellent COA Sir Jason! Well done indeed! I especially like how you worked the ermine ermine into it!  :)
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Jason Simonds on 2011-06-01, 02:02:22
I will try to work up a proper Blazon for my shield design tomorrow unfortunately it is late. But for those that want to know the top most division of 3 triangles pointing downward is called Pily, and as Sir Edward stated the creature is an Ermine.
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-06-01, 02:40:32
I will try to work up a proper Blazon for my shield design tomorrow unfortunately it is late. But for those that want to know the top most division of 3 triangles pointing downward is called Pily, and as Sir Edward stated the creature is an Ermine.

Yep, I was about to suggest a Chief Pily. I agree, I think that's right.
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Brian on 2011-06-01, 07:36:20
I see so it is three sub-ordinaries in chief and not so much as a line of separation with an ordinary chief.  :)
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Jason Simonds on 2011-06-01, 10:45:10
From what I understand Pily is a Division.

I have 2 divisions on the shield Pily in Chief, and per Fess.

Here is how I believe the Blazon should go, this is probably going to need some tweaking.

"parted per Fess Ermine and Vert, a Pily Sable with three Trefoils Or in chief, an Ermine Rampant proper in Base."




Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-06-01, 13:34:56
From what I understand Pily is a Division.

I have 2 divisions on the shield Pily in Chief, and per Fess.

Here is how I believe the Blazon should go, this is probably going to need some tweaking.

"parted per Fess Ermine and Vert, a Pily Sable with three Trefoils Or in chief, an Ermine Rampant proper in Base."


Wow, nicely done. Yes, Pily was one I wasn't that familiar with, but it does appear to be a division. I think your blazon works pretty well. You could probably leave out the word "parted", since Per Fess immediately describes the primary division in itself.
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Jason Simonds on 2011-06-01, 14:01:01
From what I have read 'Parted' is an older term that has been left out in the more modern times. Thou I could leave it out I like the older style, so i may need to modify some more of the blazon to fit the older style i am still researching the proper terminology.
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-06-01, 14:12:28
From what I have read 'Parted' is an older term that has been left out in the more modern times. Thou I could leave it out I like the older style, so i may need to modify some more of the blazon to fit the older style i am still researching the proper terminology.

Yep, that's fine of course. Good job on the heraldry so far! I'm really liking it.
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir William on 2011-06-01, 14:39:29
That's an elaborate coat of arms...I like it, Sir Jason.  The most original looking one I've seen thus far, barring Sir Edward's, of which I've not ever seen its like.  ;)
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-06-01, 15:08:00
That's an elaborate coat of arms...I like it, Sir Jason.  The most original looking one I've seen thus far, barring Sir Edward's, of which I've not ever seen its like.  ;)

What's funny is that mine is pretty typical in SCA terms, from what I understand. Dragons and swords are very common, and people love to put swords on bends. It's the combination of the two and the ankh that helped get it through in SCA registration.
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir William on 2011-06-01, 20:53:11
Its the ankh...that's it.  Egyptian symbol, it'll always throw them off the scent.  I think its cool.  And you know I have very little experience with the SCA...so you got me.  lol
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir Edward on 2011-06-02, 13:46:53
Yep, you never see ankhs in historical arms, but the SCA permits it. And I've always thought it was a cool symbol, and I've used it as a symbol for my own chivalry since I was 13, so I felt compelled to include it. I do have to defend it occasionally when people question my use of it. :)
Title: Re: VARF, how did it go in the heat?
Post by: Sir William on 2011-06-02, 14:09:39
I'll bet...but that's part of the fun, no?  Get them talking about it.