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Main => The Round Table => Topic started by: Sir Humphrey on 2014-08-01, 22:39:28
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The DOK fellows have seen this, but thought I would share here also. This is my first knight's impression, c1300. I still have lots of work to do and details to add, some of which wont get done before DOK14. The first thing I need to do is tailor my mail sleeves. I also found out that my torse is about 100 years too early, so I will add a mantle instead. The colors are of the de Bohun family, specifically Sir Humphrey de Bohun, 4th Earl of Hereford and supposed owner of the 'unlucky" sword that is coming to auction soon.
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I like it Sir Humphrey. :) Should be a success once you put on the final touches. Look forward to seeing the mantle. Some Ailettes would look nice with that design by the way for circa 1300 impression.
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As stated on Facebook, looks great Mark!
I agree, some ailettes would definitely look cool if you want to go that route!
Have you had an opportunity to try a separate belt just for the hauberk?
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Nice!
A mantle with intrinsic helm cover might also keep you a little cooler in the sun.
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Love it. Agreed on the ailettes. Easy to make BTW.
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Yes I plan on the ailettes. They will be a similar color blue with the de Bohun rampant lion on each. How big should they be, and how are they attached? Thornstienn, I have to ask: what is an intrinsic helm cover? I might make a crest of some kind, just not sure what and how elaborate I can make it without it looking cheesy. The de Bohun's unofficial symbol was the chained swan. That might be it. Sir Ian, I have not yet experimented with an underbelt on the hauberk, but I have leather and buckle standing by.
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Yes I plan on the ailettes. They will be a similar color blue with the de Bohun rampant lion on each. How big should they be, and how are they attached? Thornstienn, I have to ask: what is an intrinsic helm cover? I might make a crest of some kind, just not sure what and how elaborate I can make it without it looking cheesy. The de Bohun's unofficial symbol was the chained swan. That might be it. Sir Ian, I have not yet experimented with an underbelt on the hauberk, but I have leather and buckle standing by.
Ailettes attached typically with leather bindings; sometimes with the brass tips to thread easier through the maille. Can be made of wood, leather, or steel plate. Size is relative to the wearer but the proportions are accurate as seen in the previous pic I posted on the figurine. Sir Edward and myself wear them with our circa 1300 look (mine are slightly larger).
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Lord Dane,
Maybe 1/2 inch thick poplar about 6x8 or so? I'm imagining two holes near the center to pass the cord and lace on to the mail?
THanks
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"Thornstienn, I have to ask: what is an intrinsic helm cover? "
Said 'a Mantle with an intrinsic helm cover'. A mantle that would, as part of it's design, have an attached cover made of cloth for the helm like certain crusaders used or nomads do in the desert even today.
So as to keep the sun off the top sides & back of your helm & keep the helm cooler.
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sweet
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Looks great! :)
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"Thornstienn, I have to ask: what is an intrinsic helm cover? "
Said 'a Mantle with an intrinsic helm cover'. A mantle that would, as part of it's design, have an attached cover made of cloth for the helm like certain crusaders used or nomads do in the desert even today.
So as to keep the sun off the top sides & back of your helm & keep the helm cooler.
I think you guys are actually talking about the same thing. Thorsteinn, when most of us refer to a mantle for a great helm we intend a cloth covering that drapes on the sides and covers the top, which is what I think you're describing.
The concern with the torse is that there's no evidence for a torse on any helmets earlier than the 1400's. On a bascinet they're seemingly relegated to England and called an 'Orle' and even then they're very rare. On great helms, they're usually seen on jousting helmets and used for heraldic crest displays. Prior to the 15th century it's virtually all mantles. Torses however are a very popular reenactorism / SCAdianism, but there's no art or effigy evidence showing them for the times that reenactors like to wear them for (mostly the 14th century).
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Lord Dane,
Maybe 1/2 inch thick poplar about 6x8 or so? I'm imagining two holes near the center to pass the cord and lace on to the mail?
THanks
Made mine with 1/4 plywood, backed in felt, fronted with boiled leather. Overall dimensions are 5x7 and a little less than 1/2 inch thick. Paints are acrylic. Tie them to the mail with leather throngs. I wear mine vertically on my delts, but some people wear them horizontally over their shoulders. Not sure which is right though.
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Your kit looks great!
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Wow, looks great!
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Beautiful kit
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Lord Dane,
Maybe 1/2 inch thick poplar about 6x8 or so? I'm imagining two holes near the center to pass the cord and lace on to the mail?
THanks
Mine are 5x7 boiled leather. Painted on the front and about 1/4 inch thick. And yes regarding the hole placement.
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I'm a fan of this time in history- thanks for the inspiration, Sir Humphrey. :)
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This looks awesome! It gives me some ideas of how I want to make mine eventually and is fantastic inspiration!