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Main => The Armoury => Topic started by: Sir James A on 2013-12-27, 21:05:09
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I received some excellent new pieces from Maxim at Wild Armoury. Based off 1450 Italian style armor.
In the picture, he made the pauldrons, pauldron reinforcing braces, arms, reinforcing elbow cap, and the legs with proper oversized style wing.
(The cuirass is by Craftsmen of Taurica, not Wild Armoury)
(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3704/11590590025_9be50ff112_c.jpg) (http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3704/11590590025_f295268555_o.jpg)
(clickable for wumbo-sized)
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7336/11592447614_9085e0fd36_c.jpg) (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7336/11592447614_cbd8656312_o.jpg)
(picture without the reinforcing plates - both shoulders and the left elbow - and with armet on it; note the proper asymmetrical elbow cop wings)
Huzzah!
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Wow!!! That is awesome!!! Very nice harness!! So when's the fancy armet coming then?? ;-)
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I couldnt help but notice you own the same knee cops as I do.
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Wow!!! That is awesome!!! Very nice harness!! So when's the fancy armet coming then?? ;-)
Thank you, Sir Ian. A fancy armet will be WAY down the road. MAYBE by DoK 2015?
For now, I'm going to modify my "combat" armet a bit (the one I've already lined/padded and used at VARF). I'll remove the rolled/roped lower part (completely wrong for 1450 Italian), and I'll see if Allan can hook me up with spring pins in it like he did for my "dress" armet. I also want to get a wrapper made for it since I only have the mail standard; not sure who or how but I may try it myself if I can find a small sheet of 16ga mild. For now I'll use the same arming coat, voiders, fauld, greaves and sabatons as my regular harness, and probably get a proper set of gauntlets. I forgot to put the armet on before taking the picture. :o
I've got Sir-Wolf-itis and have a couple in-progress kits to finish. I've got a set of cuisses, cased greaves, and sabatons on order from last year w/Smiling Orc Armory, so I'll eventually have a similar harness in carbon steel. When I have the majority of that done, I'll get a carbon steel armet for it, and not worry much with this one. Plus I've got the black harness to finish too, and only have the legs for it thus far. #medievalProblems #italianArmorIsSexy #multipleCenturyDisorder #neverEnoughArmor #ramenForMonths
I couldnt help but notice you own the same knee cops as I do.
Yep, those are the MercTailor 5-flute knee cops. Also have the matching elbow cops. Part of a Templar kit I'm working on. Full mail, knee cops, elbow cops (sitting on top of the stand), and simple shoulder cops. Still finishing up with tailoring the hauberk, then it is onto the chausses feet. Haven't worked on it for a month or two due to other projects.
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Added another picture to the first post showing it with the armet on it, and without the reinforcing plates on the shoulders or left elbow.
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Thank you, Sir Ian. A fancy armet will be WAY down the road. MAYBE by DoK 2015 2014?
fixed :)
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awesome man. great looking gear.
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impressionante abbastanza! :)
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Very nice! ;D
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Bravo!! :) Excellent kit. I believe that design was traditional to knights from the now region of Tuscany. There are some pics of it during the skirmish wars between the city-states of Piedmont, Genoa and the armies of southern France during the mid-1400's over boundary issues of their regions.
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Hey that's great! Congrats!
Thank you, Sir Ian. A fancy armet will be WAY down the road. MAYBE by DoK 2015 2014?
fixed :)
lol :)
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Hey that's great! Congrats!
Thank you, Sir Ian. A fancy armet will be WAY down the road. MAYBE by DoK 2015 2014?
fixed :)
lol :)
It is only funny because we know it is true...Sir James has no self restraint :)
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Hey that's great! Congrats!
Thank you, Sir Ian. A fancy armet will be WAY down the road. MAYBE by DoK 2015 2014?
fixed :)
lol :)
It is only funny because we know it is true...Sir James has no self restraint :)
Quite true! However, the stuff I've had on order from Smiling Orc was around Dec last year, details finalized in April, so, unless I ordered the armet months earlier this year, the likelihood of getting it for DoK is slim at best. And for those who know me, "James" and "slim" are rarely in the same sentence without the presence of "not". :D
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And for those who know me, "James" and "slim" are rarely in the same sentence without the presence of "not". :D
Great! So the chances of you getting the helmet this year is NOT slim at best, meaning that it is likely! Can't wait to see the new helmet in October! ;-)
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Sir James, I want you to be Santa next year lol. But wow thats killer kit. I wish I had money to spare lol. ONE DAY!!
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And for those who know me, "James" and "slim" are rarely in the same sentence without the presence of "not". :D
Great! So the chances of you getting the helmet this year is NOT slim at best, meaning that it is likely! Can't wait to see the new helmet in October! ;-)
Egads! You caught me. Let me just call up Smiling Orc and add an armet to the list of my commissions. But I forgot, what's your credit card number again?
Sir James, I want you to be Santa next year lol. But wow thats killer kit. I wish I had money to spare lol. ONE DAY!!
I'm more than twice your age, so, not to worry. Time, patience, and hard work. :)
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So James I have heard that maxim's stuff looks amazing, how is the quality? You think I should trust my noggin in ACL combat to his gear? :)
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So James I have heard that maxim's stuff looks amazing, how is the quality? You think I should trust my noggin in ACL combat to his gear? :)
Well, that's a loaded question! I saw IceFalcon has been trying to get a helmet replaced by Maxim that broke or something, for 6+ months or so. I'd guess it's a carbon steel helmet; I've heard good and bad about heat treated carbon steel armor from the Ukraine, more along the lines of their steel isn't as consistent so even with proper and consistent heat treating methods, they produce the odd piece here and there that will crack.
That said, I don't think I'd trust my noggin in *any* armor for ACL, because no way would I do ACL at all. :D
I would go with 10 or 12 gauge mild and oversize the helmet to add extra padded. Layer or two of sorbothane on the outside, and horsehair padded on the inside. Mild steel is far less likely to crack; it's going to dent easier than equivalent carbon steel, but they're destroying helmets and armor like a Berserker over there. Even spring stainless, the top tier reasonable metal for armor, seems to get dented and abused.
Granted, it shows that armor REALLY works, because I have no doubt most of those people would be dead if they didn't have armor ... but if you're seriously considering ACL, I'd talk with the guys who do it, and get their opinions. Also, ACL related travel costs will probably be $5k-$10k for a year. One guy who went to BotN last year or the year before did a fundraiser to raise $8k to go to Europe to compete. So the armor is a minor cost, relatively speaking.
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So James I have heard that maxim's stuff looks amazing, how is the quality? You think I should trust my noggin in ACL combat to his gear? :)
Well, that's a loaded question! I saw IceFalcon has been trying to get a helmet replaced by Maxim that broke or something, for 6+ months or so. I'd guess it's a carbon steel helmet; I've heard good and bad about heat treated carbon steel armor from the Ukraine, more along the lines of their steel isn't as consistent so even with proper and consistent heat treating methods, they produce the odd piece here and there that will crack.
That said, I don't think I'd trust my noggin in *any* armor for ACL, because no way would I do ACL at all. :D
I would go with 10 or 12 gauge mild and oversize the helmet to add extra padded. Layer or two of sorbothane on the outside, and horsehair padded on the inside. Mild steel is far less likely to crack; it's going to dent easier than equivalent carbon steel, but they're destroying helmets and armor like a Berserker over there. Even spring stainless, the top tier reasonable metal for armor, seems to get dented and abused.
Granted, it shows that armor REALLY works, because I have no doubt most of those people would be dead if they didn't have armor ... but if you're seriously considering ACL, I'd talk with the guys who do it, and get their opinions. Also, ACL related travel costs will probably be $5k-$10k for a year. One guy who went to BotN last year or the year before did a fundraiser to raise $8k to go to Europe to compete. So the armor is a minor cost, relatively speaking.
The traveling part is easy to get the wife excited about. As is this year I plan to spend about 8k between traveling and armor if the budget holds!
Definitely would get 3mm Mild Steel :)
I read about the icefalcon thing...it seems icefalcon wanted the helm made out of something else after the break and didnt agree to the change in price. Shrug, I have heard nothing but great stuff from him from the Austrian national team and they use him for all their armor.
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What is ACL combat? It sounds rather painful.
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What is sorbothane? Is there like a spray on version? I looked at the site and it wasn't very clear how it would be applied to a helmet.
USA National Team. Battle of the Nations (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0D9SRked5Y#ws)
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What is ACL combat? It sounds rather painful.
ACL = Armored Combat League.
It's one of the sports that contributes teams to the Battle of the Nations event. Basically the best groups of ACL form the teams that represent the various countries at BotN. There are several organizations that do this ultra-violent medieval-esque style combat, and contribute people to BotN, ACL is just one of those organizations. ACL is mostly the American side, with some other countries, but it varies by nation.
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What is ACL combat? It sounds rather painful.
ACL = Armored Combat League.
It's one of the sports that contributes teams to the Battle of the Nations event. Basically the best groups of ACL form the teams that represent the various countries at BotN. There are several organizations that do this ultra-violent medieval-esque style combat, and contribute people to BotN, ACL is just one of those organizations. ACL is mostly the American side, with some other countries, but it varies by nation.
If I recall correctly ACL is pretty much just America. The IMCF (international medieval combat federation) is the new rival to HMBIA (which hosts BotN) set up by the US (ACL) plus some other countries. It spawned from american discontent with lack of transparency in the HMBIA and lack of power by western europeans in the rules and regulations.
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How'd I miss this thread? Great harness, Sir James!
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Sir Ian covered ACL.
What is sorbothane?
http://www.sorbothane.com/ (http://www.sorbothane.com/)
It's a visco-elastic membrane that absorbs shock and vibrations. Some kind of +3 to armor enchantment, basically.
How'd I miss this thread? Great harness, Sir James!
Thank you, Sir Patrick!
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There is no spray version. ACL won't let you put that on the outside of your helm as it would make it look like rubber instead of steel. You could probably make a liner of it though.
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There is no spray version. ACL won't let you put that on the outside of your helm as it would make it look like rubber instead of steel. You could probably make a liner of it though.
I was confused for a minute, and re-read my original post. Sorry, a liner is indeed what I meant. Sorbothane "outside" as "outside of the padded liner, but inside the helmet itself". If you were looking at the cross-section of the helmet at eye level:
(helmet | sorbothane | horsehair | head | horsehair | sorbothane | helmet)
Or in another way, from inside out: head, then a layer of horsehair padding, then a layer of sorbothane, then the helmet itself.
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Hmmm I might look into that :)
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I love it!
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Beautiful harness Sir James! I can't wait to get my quillions into it! ;)
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Wow fantastic armor sir James!
I suppose you keep all this armor in one giant walk in closet? Just in case someone breaks into your house, you'll have your own bat cave .(armor cave )
How'd I miss this thread? Great harness, Sir James!
I know right?
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I suppose you keep all this armor in one giant walk in closet? Just in case someone breaks into your house, you'll have your own bat cave .(armor cave )
Yep, it's exactly like a bat cave. Fancy sliding pole from the kitchen and all.
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And I imagine that pole could do double duty. Heh. ;)
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Very impressive Sir James :)
G.
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I suppose you keep all this armor in one giant walk in closet? Just in case someone breaks into your house, you'll have your own bat cave .(armor cave )
Yep, it's exactly like a bat cave. Fancy sliding pole from the kitchen and all.
Bat pole? Oh ya that was like 30 years ago. Now batman uses stairs. Wait that's when I was a kid. I think he uses an escalator now.