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Title: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Sir Brian on 2013-08-19, 18:12:53
Well I paid for them on Friday and they are being shipped tomorrow according the the email this morning.
(http://www.spqr.se/pictures/products/armour_parts/armour_ap6_1.jpg)

Cost with shipping and currency conversion is $394, which is possible the lowest price I've ever found for Wisby gauntlets.
I hope they aren't shoddy! Keeping my fingers crossed!  :-\
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Sir Edward on 2013-08-19, 18:35:01

Cool! I'm curious to see how well they move. I may need to get a set at some point.
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Ian on 2013-08-19, 18:46:27
Are they off-the-peg or made to measure?
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Sir James A on 2013-08-19, 19:01:08
Congrats on the new (pending) acquisition!
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Sir Brian on 2013-08-19, 19:18:49
Are they off-the-peg or made to measure?

Hopefully a little of both!
They have set sizes based upon European measurements for hands which mine is just a little under their size 10. I sent them a PDF file of my traced hands and asked them to send their correlating size.  :-\
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Ian on 2013-08-19, 20:07:19
They look awesome!  Looking forward to seeing them at DoK!
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2013-08-19, 21:52:26
Gods those would make fantastic lo-pro fingered gauntlets.
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Sir Brian on 2013-08-20, 00:50:48
Gods those would make fantastic lo-pro fingered gauntlets.

lo-pro?
Do you mean low protection? I'm hoping they will be high protection since lacrosse gloves are not really sufficent with steel combat.  :-\
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Ian on 2013-08-20, 00:56:44
I think he meant low-profile. 
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Sir Ulrich on 2013-08-20, 01:01:03
I like them, might have to one day get a pair. Cant wait to see them at DoK.
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Lord Dane on 2013-08-20, 11:48:22
Well I paid for them on Friday and they are being shipped tomorrow according the the email this morning.
(http://www.spqr.se/pictures/products/armour_parts/armour_ap6_1.jpg)

Cost with shipping and currency conversion is $394, which is possible the lowest price I've ever found for Wisby gauntlets.
I hope they aren't shoddy! Keeping my fingers crossed!  :-\

Cheaper than I have seen. Mine were $475. I am happy with mine!! They are similar in many respects Brian. Hope they are as good on you because we know how much thumb protection you need. ;D  :P LOL
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2013-08-20, 12:04:47
awesomeeeeeee
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Sir James A on 2013-08-20, 18:52:25
I think he meant low-profile. 

Yep, common SCA-dian term
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Sir Brian on 2013-08-20, 21:41:19
I think he meant low-profile. 

Yep, common SCA-dian term

OH! :-[

Well those will never do! Especially since everyone knows how flamboyant I am!  :P
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Ian on 2013-08-20, 21:46:30

OH! :-[

Well those will never do! Especially since everyone knows how flamboyant I am!  :P

lol
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Sir Brian on 2013-09-19, 13:20:19
UPDATE:
These were a bit cruder than expected, which wouldn’t be so bad if the overall quality was better but it really wasn’t.
When I received it the left gauntlet’s buckle strap had come off in shipping and there was some advanced rust formed on several of the fingers on both gauntlets. The edge of the cuff plates haven’t been finished off and are generally a hazard, also the leather of the cuffs were seriously thicker than necessary and needlessly compromises the mobility of the wrists. The attached gloves were woefully thin and oddly made for fitting only someone with short and stubby fingers.

After a single use the palm strap broke on the left gauntlet and I noticed the leather backing of the metacarpal plate is now split near the edge of the plate.

So essentially I may have saved a couple hundred bucks but I’ll have to spend a few weeks salvaging these ‘gauntlets by keeping the fingers and stitching them directly onto the new medium weight deerskin falconry gauntlets. I’ll probably do the same with the thumb and metacarpal plates and then combine it with my renfaire leather half-gauntlets instead of keeping the original cuff.

In hindsight I would have probably saved myself a lot of extra work if I just purchased a kit from the beginning but my misfortune can at least forewarn the next buyer. :(
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Ian on 2013-09-19, 13:44:38
I'm very sorry it turned out that way.  What a shame.  They looked so promising in the photos!  Before the whole situation with Brian Price blew up I had ordered a pair of his hourglass gauntlets and very much feel the way you're feeling right now when I actually got them in my hand.  In the future, I would either get a kit for those Wisbys or go custom and you won't regret it.
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2013-09-19, 16:27:51
man that sucks. bring them to the ren faire in md and i'll take a look (or take pics!!!!! or said probelm areas) and i'll see if i can fix them for you if i have the material at no charge.
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Allan Senefelder on 2013-09-19, 17:17:39
Brian, I don't know how involved you want to get in the rehab, but detaching the cuffs ( and keeping the wrist plates in sequence ) would provide you with a template to use/sketch for a thinner leather replacement complete with the necessary hole locations for plate attachment and reattachment of the cuffs to the articulating potion of the hand/glove.
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Sir Brian on 2013-09-19, 19:43:43
man that sucks. bring them to the ren faire in md and i'll take a look (or take pics!!!!! or said probelm areas) and i'll see if i can fix them for you if i have the material at no charge.

That is very kind of you Sir Wolf but I couldn’t deny myself the joy and challenge of making some effective alterations. Still if I totally hose it up I might take you up on that offer but be warned I already invested in a stitching awl and synthetic sinew last night! ;)

Brian, I don't know how involved you want to get in the rehab, but detaching the cuffs ( and keeping the wrist plates in sequence ) would provide you with a template to use/sketch for a thinner leather replacement complete with the necessary hole locations for plate attachment and reattachment of the cuffs to the articulating potion of the hand/glove.

Thanks Allan! I considered that but one aspect I learned about Wisby style gauntlets in the short time I fought with them is that particular style of cuff is REALLY restrictive on wrist movement and thus impedes proper handling of a longsword as Sir Edward can attest when we discussed it last Sunday. It also explains why the bell cuff became predominant. – So all in all it is kind of a cool history lesson except instead of paying for a $600.00 history course book I never use I spent $400 on a historical ‘dead-end’ I MIGHT be able to bastardize and get some use out of! ;)
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Sir James A on 2013-09-19, 21:40:12
Oh wow, that's a shame. If there's something you need to rework them and it's worth the drive, I can do another open workshop day where I stand around and say "what other tool do you need?".
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Lord Dane on 2013-09-19, 23:43:50
Sorry to hear that Sir Brian. You should have tried 3 turrets armoury. They did such nice work.
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Sir Brian on 2013-10-04, 02:27:59
Okay so I took a crappy pair of these:
(http://www.spqr.se/pictures/products/armour_parts/armour_ap6_1.jpg)
A pair of these:
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Tah908/IMG_0283_zps70d9b0d7.jpg) (http://s221.photobucket.com/user/Tah908/media/IMG_0283_zps70d9b0d7.jpg.html)
And a pair of these:
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Tah908/IMG_0282_zps2ca37245.jpg) (http://s221.photobucket.com/user/Tah908/media/IMG_0282_zps2ca37245.jpg.html)

And made this!
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Tah908/IMG_0284_zps8fb56326.jpg) (http://s221.photobucket.com/user/Tah908/media/IMG_0284_zps8fb56326.jpg.html)

Mobility is excellent. The deerskin is thick and very comfortable and the protection should be awesome. I added a couple of layers of felt between the finger plates and the glove for a little extra padding. :)

Oh and I had a blast figuring it out and rebuilding it. Now to finish the right hand! :)
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Sir Edward on 2013-10-04, 02:32:27

Awesome! Now I can aim for your hands with impunity! ;)
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Sir Brian on 2013-10-04, 07:46:04
You mean you haven't been in the past? Egad I need to block better!  :o  ;)
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Lord Dane on 2013-10-04, 07:55:54
Be careful Sir Edward. You know Sir Brian is the best thumb blocker in the business. :P
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Sir James A on 2013-10-04, 15:56:18
Excellent! When will you be producing plate armor?? :D
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: B. Patricius on 2013-10-04, 20:17:58
Okay so I took a crappy pair of these:
(http://www.spqr.se/pictures/products/armour_parts/armour_ap6_1.jpg)
A pair of these:
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Tah908/IMG_0283_zps70d9b0d7.jpg) (http://s221.photobucket.com/user/Tah908/media/IMG_0283_zps70d9b0d7.jpg.html)
And a pair of these:
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Tah908/IMG_0282_zps2ca37245.jpg) (http://s221.photobucket.com/user/Tah908/media/IMG_0282_zps2ca37245.jpg.html)

And made this!
(http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd251/Tah908/IMG_0284_zps8fb56326.jpg) (http://s221.photobucket.com/user/Tah908/media/IMG_0284_zps8fb56326.jpg.html)

Mobility is excellent. The deerskin is thick and very comfortable and the protection should be awesome. I added a couple of layers of felt between the finger plates and the glove for a little extra padding. :)

Oh and I had a blast figuring it out and rebuilding it. Now to finish the right hand! :)

adapt and overcome!  Awesome job Sir Brian.  Those look very functional and protective now.  In the Adrian Empire, a lot of guys LOVE fingered gauntlets.  At Imperial Crown War I saw an awesome set that were nigh tank proof they felt... get this, he used "buttstock padding" inbetween the glove and the plates!  :o  never thought of that, and totally works.  Apparently it can be bought in sheets
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Sir Martyn on 2013-10-05, 03:54:59
Concur!  Nice work, Sir Brian!  I look forward to comparing gauntlets :)
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Sir Wolf on 2013-10-05, 15:02:45
now what did you do with the bottom part of the old gauntlets? hint hint lol we could work on new fingers to go on those lol
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Sir Gerard de Rodes on 2013-10-07, 21:27:32
That`s a shame Sir Brian because I really do like the look of the Wisby Gauntlets. But well done on a serviceable salvage  ;)
G.
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Sir Brian on 2014-03-01, 17:52:03
My ‘FrankenGaunts’ as I refer to them garnered several compliments and intense study from more than a few admirers at Short Point last weekend. One of the finalists borrowed them during his final two duels because his hands had been hit to many times and he wanted better protection. He loved how much mobility they had and the great protection they offered. All in all I’m pleased with them!  :)
Title: Re: Wisby Gauntlets from SPQR
Post by: Aiden of Oreland on 2014-03-01, 22:59:05
Its a real shame they wern't what they were made up to be. But, they look great now! They really came out nice!