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Title: Unluckiest Sword in English history for sale. Carries de Bohun Arms
Post by: Timothy on 2014-07-12, 07:30:45
Good Morning, 

For 120,000 pounds this sword can be yours.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2689177/Is-England-s-unluckiest-sword-Viking-broadsword-losing-four-history-s-greatest-battles-just-120-000.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2689177/Is-England-s-unluckiest-sword-Viking-broadsword-losing-four-history-s-greatest-battles-just-120-000.html)

Timothy
Title: Re: Unluckiest Sword in English history for sale. Carries de Bohun Arms
Post by: Ian on 2014-07-12, 12:39:46
There's an example for your persona thread inquiry.  That sword looks like it was re-hilted and re-ground many times altering it's shape, profile, and performance characteristics over the course of its working life to suit more modern styles as it went on.  If it's chain of ownership is true (while carrying the de Bohun arms is interesting, that's quite a tall tale they've spun about its history), it saw battle throughout the age of maille and was retired about the time plate was rapidly advancing.  Regardless of who really owned that sword, it's a cool example of the sword as a tool through time.  That's one hell of a piece!

Note that the manuscript miniature in the article depicting the Battle of Boroughbridge is actually an early 15th century depiction of an entirely different battle (Battle of Tinchebray 1106).  But its time of painting is why it shows everyone in early 15th century armor.
Title: Re: Unluckiest Sword in English history for sale. Carries de Bohun Arms
Post by: Sir William on 2014-07-15, 19:47:54
Hell of a way to go for the last purported owner of that sword, I quote:

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However, the cursed sword's bad luck continued at the Battle of Boroughbridge in 1322, when the unfortunate owner was speared in the anus and killed.

Any attempt to envision that is met w/riotous laughter.  I know that's a horrible way to go- must be the juvenile in me that finds it humorous.  Seriously, was he bending over flashing his hind parts in derision when he got caught?
Title: Re: Unluckiest Sword in English history for sale. Carries de Bohun Arms
Post by: Sir James A on 2014-07-16, 15:45:10
Hell of a way to go for the last purported owner of that sword, I quote:

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However, the cursed sword's bad luck continued at the Battle of Boroughbridge in 1322, when the unfortunate owner was speared in the anus and killed.

Any attempt to envision that is met w/riotous laughter.  I know that's a horrible way to go- must be the juvenile in me that finds it humorous.  Seriously, was he bending over flashing his hind parts in derision when he got caught?

Random soldier: "de Bohun, there's a gold farthing upon the ground by yon sabatons!"
de Bohun: "Ah! 'Tis my lucky day! I shall simply lean down to" (and then gets speared in the butt)
Title: Re: Unluckiest Sword in English history for sale. Carries de Bohun Arms
Post by: Thorsteinn on 2014-07-16, 16:03:28
Unfortunately not the first time this has happened & caused famed deaths:

 
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After watching this man unleash mayhem so brutal that it would make even the most hardcore MMA enthusiasts nauseous, one clever Saxon warrior wised up and decided not to try and test this barbarian's might.  He floated a barrel in the river, hopped in, drifted underneath the bridge, and jammed his spear up through the planks, striking the Viking in his only weak point - the ball sack.

The Swift-Footed Achilles had his infamous heel, Smaug the Magnificent had a weak point covering his heart, and the Giant Enemy Crab could be exposed for massive damage - but for this invincible Viking warrior, a spear wound in the junk was the one thing that could slow him down. 
Title: Re: Unluckiest Sword in English history for sale. Carries de Bohun Arms
Post by: Sir Nate on 2014-07-24, 20:59:50
Unlucky sword??? Its in fantastic condition!!!!!
Excalibur broke, while arthur wielded it
Arthur got thrusted by a spear while wielding it
Yet people killed for that sword.
Tis not the sword, Nay, tis the Man
Title: Re: Unluckiest Sword in English history for sale. Carries de Bohun Arms
Post by: Sir Humphrey on 2014-08-01, 00:12:39
As a de Bohun descendent, I'd love to have a good repro of that sword.  I think I only believe the second half of the tale that Christies applies to the sword.  I also wish the UK government would buy and keep it for the public.  I'll hate to see it locked away in a private collection.
Title: Re: Unluckiest Sword in English history for sale. Carries de Bohun Arms
Post by: Eva de Carduus Weald on 2014-08-13, 17:42:49
How awesome is that? I love the shape of it and yeah I can see it changed throughout it's life to suit the time and defenses developed but how cool! Now if only I actually *had* 120,000 pounds to spend on such a piece. I will simply have to dream.

As for being speared in the butt, um ouch. Not a death I would like to experience but it is funny in a morbid sort of way.
Title: Re: Unluckiest Sword in English history for sale. Carries de Bohun Arms
Post by: Sir William on 2014-08-14, 20:12:11
Unlucky sword??? Its in fantastic condition!!!!!
Excalibur broke, while arthur wielded it
Arthur got thrusted by a spear while wielding it
Yet people killed for that sword.
Tis not the sword, Nay, tis the Man

That was not Excalibur that broke- I know, the movie showed it breaking during the fight with Lancelot but according to lore, it wasn't Excalibur, it was the sword he pulled from the stone that broke; which is, after a long and convoluted tale, why he ended up with Excalibur.  ;)
Title: Re: Unluckiest Sword in English history for sale. Carries de Bohun Arms
Post by: Sir Edward on 2014-08-14, 20:31:48

Yeah, it's really just the modern movie adaptations that merge the two stories, to make Excalibur into the sword in the stone, and the one that breaks.
Title: Re: Unluckiest Sword in English history for sale. Carries de Bohun Arms
Post by: Sir Humphrey on 2014-09-01, 09:06:59
Even BBC's Horrible Histories pokes fun of Humphrey de Bohun's fate:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7bBQKsAEV8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7bBQKsAEV8)

Title: Re: Unluckiest Sword in English history for sale. Carries de Bohun Arms
Post by: Sir Nate on 2014-09-08, 22:56:33

Yeah, it's really just the modern movie adaptations that merge the two stories, to make Excalibur into the sword in the stone, and the one that breaks.
I forgot about that. Time to read the rest of the once and future king series.

Even BBC's Horrible Histories pokes fun of Humphrey de Bohun's fate:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7bBQKsAEV8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7bBQKsAEV8)

Lol, now I can't wait to meet the grim reaper(don't take that the wrong way)
I can't even begin to start about how many bum jokes I heard this summer.
Lol